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Anonymous
Years ago

Fisher: MVP method potentially biased

Skip, not sure what you mean there. If it was to do with my SOJ reference, please ignore it as this name should never come up in a thread to do with MVP (or at least not for the next few years :-|)

Also, there is a difference bewteen valuable and value.

I don't think I've seen Corey Williams' name mentioned amongst MVP contenders, yet his value to the Crocs since coming in would be unmeasurable.

EC
Years ago

skip, its beyond the control of the MVP as to how the rest of the team plays. If he busts his guts every game and has a high level of productivity as a result of it, why should he not be worthy of the award? He is an MVP because regardless of ladder position, he would be highly sought after. That's what makes him "Valuable".

Anonymous
Years ago

Sorry Skip, I'm with EC on this one. The 'P' in MVP stands for player and should have nothing to do with the team (or specifically the success level of that team) for which the player plays.

Also, success should not just be playoffs and championships. I think the Slingers were successful this season in not finishing last (sorry Dicko).

While I don't necessarily agree with Fisher's bias point as I feel the coaches are professional enough to be above this, who knows what goes on with some of the lower vote allocations.

A 3-2-1 Brownlow style would be great but harder to accept if the Referees were involved (Nah don't give him the 3 votes 'cause he was a real dickhead when I called that fifth foul on him). Maybe both coaches with a 3-2-1.

IMO the end of season transparency idea is the best fix for the current system. This way we'll all be able to see SOJ getting just as many votes from opposing coaches as from Dad (thanks XY I hope he gets traded to the 36ers!)

EC
Years ago

skip, I don't agree. An individual can be the best and most valuable player even though they don't win the championship. You can't take anything away from that player just because the rest of the team was not up to scratch to win the championship. It is an individual award and judgement should be made on an individual basis, whereas winning the championship is a team achievement. By your reasoning, every player on a championship team should be named MVP because it was the combination of all of them to win the championship. I think Ballinger is a worthy recipient of the award yet the 36ers did not even make playoffs. He personally played consistently well throughout the season to have earned to honour.

Unlike Fisher's ideasm I think this system is the fairest because it recognises the best player throughout the season and not just at the very end because they win the championship.

 

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