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Monta Ellis another in the pantheon of NBA morons.

Just another point- so many people seem to be angry at the kid (he is a kid too) but in the same situation you all would be doing the same things as him to weasle out of trouble.

So easy to take a moral high ground when its someone else, and even easier to attack them if your jealous of their position in life.

Imagine if he now has a career like Grant Hill and his ankle...

All reports are its not that serious and he will be back to 100% but they said the same about Hill...

yeah look i'm really trying to look at the inclusion of these types of clauses from an ethical standpoint.

Should owners have the right to include these types of clauses?

Is it an invasion of a persons civil rights?

To imply that he has an option not to sign such a contract is silly- no owner will remove a clause when it costs them nothin and can be an insurance against acts of god or youth...

That said, owners have payed for a product, and the supplier, in this case Ellis, is going to fail to deliver the product for a couple of months. Some compensations should be forth coming you would think...

Perhaps if an injury is caused through activities of a reckless nature, ie speeding or abuse of drugs / alcohol, the contract should become nill and void.

Then the discussion would be around what constitutes a reckless act and a ton of lawyers can add a new wing to their mansions debating it...

I just wanna be clear about this, if Monta did things of a reckless nature while riding the bike, throw the book at him for sure. If he was just riding and screwed up, then he should not be in trouble. He of course will be in trouble regardless because of the rediculous clauses placed in these contracts.

I really disagree with these types of clauses, and to suggest that because he signed the contract he therefore agrees with the content is crazy. He would of had zero choice.

As for Mullin, hell yeah he would be acid about what has happened, but should he really be angry at Monta for being a 22 yr old who wanted to have the experience of riding a motorbike? Or should he accept that people are people and shit happens?

Be thankful that he didn't kill himself outright, use the time to blood Williams at the point, accept that the warriors would have to do everything right to sneak in at 8 in the play-offs anyway, and make the most out of this season by playing Wright and Randolph and Biedrins.

It is so easy to say this stuff when your a fan looking in. These are people too, with one life to live.

The years of 18-30 are the best years of your life and your telling them they can't live their life to the full?

Too many people like to say- 'they are getting paid to do something they love' and i just think that is a rubbish outsider looking in type viewpoint.

To be in the NBA today, you need to be 24/7 about your diet, your exercise. How many fat fans and finger pointers would be willing to put in the equivalent amount of time to train as these guys do?

We are not talking extremes either, he rode a bike ffs! Let em go get blind on the weekend, as long as they bring it to training and game time every time, what the hell is the issue?

If they get hurt doing something reckless, against the law perhaps, then fine em and keep it in mind for the next contract negotiation. But to put these rules on what human beings are allowed to do is terrible.

Are the female players allowed to get pregnant? What if LJ got some great news 9 months out from the WNBA finals? Gonna start writing that into contracts too?

As for having it easy as an NBA player, i reckon we could find more than a few people in the world earning millions and doing a hell of a lot less than these guys do. Politicians anyone?!

These guys are idiots at times, but so was i when i was growing up, and so were you if your honest.

Punish stupidity and recklessness, do not outlaw lifes pleasures for the sake of a sport and dollars.

What are the legals on this? My thinking would be that as long as he denies the injury was motorbike related, it would then be on the warriors to PROVE it.

The law of deniability would make it real tough on the warriors to do anything regarding his contract.

I hope for his sake, Ellis has some smart people talking to him right now, and not a bunch of t.v lawer mates and family members who "took the bar exam once.."

The bigger picture is the bad blood that will now exhist because of it, which is funny coz GM's and owners lie to their players on a regular basis...

Johnny, what's your source that he was riding a motorcycle? All I've found is an article where he admits he lied about how he got injured, but no details of the truth:

Ellis admits he lied to Warriors about injury.