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Kobe your my hero.... whatever.

Oh i dug a hole, then i filled it with Kobes crap, now i'm looking down from a great height.

Gigigity gigity goo.

Sorry KingJames, never meant to hurt your feelings.

Thanks Sam.

Dude- had no idea what i got myself into. The topic is such a micro small part of basketball, so much so it barely matters at all.

People get emotional when you call out a player they like, human nature and all that.

I was just having a laugh at how Kobe goes about creating the 'new' Kobe Bryant. It's so obvious to me that his perceived change is nothing than words on a screen.

I guess others wanna beleive, good luck to em.

'Yeah its not perfect but I can live with it - Id rather put off having any corrective surgery at this stage so I can do pre season with the team as I feel we have a great group and if we all put in the hard yards at training we have a real shot at going deep in the playoffs again this year'

Case would of been closed. No thread needed.

Instead he embelishes himself like mad.

I know i'm a broken record here but some folks just don't get it.

Its not a big deal either i'd like to point out.

Its just my opinion that Kobe is still the same selfish player he was when he played second fiddle to Shaq.

Should fans hate him? Hell no.
Should the NBA not use him in marketing the game? Hell no.
Should he not get picked as MVP or for team USA? Hell no.

Just don't tell me he is a good person, coz he ain't.

A good person would of used the above paragraph to describe the situation.

But thats the point dude- if he had changed at all, for real, he would of made a statement similar to what statmen wrote, instead, he glorifies himself no end.

I'd like to think he has changed but don't you think his apparent attitude change is very thin top soil?

What would happen if Bynum came out this season and smashed it in a crazy way- 30 and 15 with 4 blocks- old school Hakeem like numbers?, would Kobe still be all sugar and no spice?

If your a Kobe fan- don't get on me, there is nothing to say that you have to love everything about a player to be a fan of what they do on the court.

For example- Kemp and Payton were awesome, and i was a fan, but i wouldn't consider either of them good people. And it doesn't matter one bit, i enjoyed their entertainment value, plus, they never pretended to be anything other than what they were.

So don't pretend Kobe is something he isn't embrace it, he is really entertaining when you read between his lines...

Dug a hole my butt.

What is the value of a thread? Nothing. Just words man.

The extract was from Kobe's own web site to his fans, so nobody as far as i'm aware asked him of the 'injury' at all.

I am really struggling to get the point across though, that;

Kobe was known as a selfish twat and now he is in full blown kiss ass mode towards teamates. Its like a politician trying to score votes. He had such a negative image there for a while, has he really changed or has he just changed the way he talks?

Did the lakers improve because Kobe became team first or because they got a MASSIVE upgrade with Bynum's development in the first part of the season and the addition of Gasol for the second half?

He deserved his MVP- no two ways about it, but his character has not changed. If a player came to the lakers in the Shaq ilk, ie a challenge to Kobes kingdom you would see the old Kobe rear his ugly head again.

Baby is only happy coz he got his rattle.

As much as i can not stand Kobe i really dont find anything wrong with the comments he has made. Quagmire you've really dug yourself a deep hole here mate :P =)

This thread would not exhist if he had said what you wrote Statman. Your words are what any honest talking human would say, not the garbage Kobe comes up with.

You have no idea.

I just hate seeing people deceive others.

Kobe is such an amazing talent, much like Lebron he just doesn't need to be such an ingenuine person.

It's like they modelled their careers on MJ's legacy but focussed too much on his weaker traits. Traits that they have taken too far. The cockiness, the arrogance, the tough love of teamates.

Listen to Hakeem talk, listen to Russell, winners both and outstandingly honest people.

I really wouldn't be bothered if Kobe was a tool, i just hate the posture and deception that he is a good person.

I just don't buy into the whole 'Kobe turns a new leaf' story.

What i'm hinting at Isaac is that maybe the injury has been declared minor and not deserving of surgery, that would be the only reason a team would not strongly advise surgery this time of year.

Maybe it ain't so 'broken' as it is badly 'popped'.

Anyone who plays ball for a while will get fingers popped all the time, some can be real bad, painfull stuff. If it turns out that Kobes well publicised broken finger ain't broken at all, and never was, that would be way too embarrassing for our Kobe.

So instead of admitting his finger was never broken, he talks of his desire to be there to 'punch the clock' and bond with his team.

Just a theory, but if it looks like a load of crap, smells like a load of crap- probably a load of crap.

Hump day- gimme a break

Maybe your right DICKO.

Maybe i should shut my mouth and just let people beleive in something, like the tooth fairy, the easter bunny and Kobe; the team first, God fearing humble basketballer.

Does anyone know the exact dates to this? Is it from the 28th-30th of Jan, or am I horribly wrong?

'I have always felt that I can still focus and play at a high level even through various injuries'

Ego point 1.
Ask AC Green about playing through injuries. Ask John Stockton.
You'll have to ask em, coz they will never tell you without asking first, thats what tough is.
Why not just come out an say- my finger isn't worth getting surgery on, doesn't hurt?

'I just decided now was not the time to have surgery"

If not now, in the frickin off-season, when???!!!!
During the season ffs? Moron.

'given all we are trying to accomplish as a team '

I think this should read;
'with all I'M trying to achieve with THIS team'


'That is a real bonding process and if I can avoid being on the sidelines for that, God willing, I will'

Is this guy running for office or something?

A leopard don't change its spots, a selfish egotistical and childish Kobe don't change his either, no matter what awards they give him.

I bet Kobe loving people and fans with gullible intellect would beleive anything this guy says.

1/ NBA players (including teamates)

2/ Donuts.


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