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U18 Nationals -Predictions???

Amused,

You need to see who else they lost to. QLD Sth was the first loss, and not only just. Mind you there is a couple of talented young girls in that side.
Have a look and you will see who and by how much.

Now your happy that they can get a bronze, then have a shit team and get 9th...that's OK, but low and behold get a decent team this year and 7th is ok too?

They may all do it for free, but someone is paying...Parents. Your only thinking of the coaching panel. Parents have paid dearly for a sub standard result and yes at the end of the day change is needed.

The girls haven't failed to live up to the status, they had silver last year..16's remember? That is if your OK with a bronze then you must be OK with silver.

If you think 5 years and then looking to get a new coach is knee jerk, with only 1 medal..

I guess I'm not OK with poor results, but that's me as a person. I would like to think that SA Country aren't either. After all, that is what Albury and Pt Mac are about, developing to get a nationals team that goes away and have success. I understand rebuilding, but in programs like this, there isn't a rebuilding because it is just build and go, so no rebuild.

That's the nature of this state basketball beast.
I guess we will find out in 3 or 4 months time when coaches are selected again.

So because the SA Coaches don't get paid (Which we know isn't entirely true), they should just stay there forever?

Coaches get moved on for the very reasons we are talking about..Lack of performances. 3 years ago was a bronze, last year was 9th, this year 7th...Do you just get the job then stick around for as long as need be? All because it is a volunteers job?

If you don't think there is anyone else in the SA Country program I think you are misguided by your loyalty.

Amused, you are replying like someone very close to the action. I would hazard a guess and say you are indeed one of the coaches? If not 'The' coach. Could be wrong, but if you are not, you certainly are close enough to the group, to be honest it is refreshing to see one of you reply. I certainly know you guys read this forum, and at times it is disappointing to see some of the comments at SA Country coaches, but at the end of the day, while coaches do this job unpaid, the parents pay a shitlaod for this.

The $ factor for what they have paid out for their child and then if they go and watch, this little exercise would cost near $10K(Nationals) and that is just going away, not the trainings and all the other stuff on top. But parents don’t care about the money if the results are their. If they see all members of the team putting in (Coaches & Players) then often they will be happy, but if they see and hear about the extra activities going on...Hoops.com.au comes alive! They have expectations as coaches do.

Parents are not blind, hence the "smell the coffee instead of beer" comments. But more importantly they get the inside word from their children.

As for calling for change. Comes with the business, how often do we see people pay for poor performances? Ninnis? Smythe? Valk? And that is in SA, and only in basketball. What about football, even today’s paper calls for Neil Craig. Get realistic if you don’t think that people will be after a coach with a sub par performance.

Is there time for a change? I would say so, and I would think Jason would be thinking the same too. Results count. 7th isn’t the result when there are some talented ladies in the side, and more so when the team coaches went away with top 2 finish in their sights.

I would say Trudy would be looking to get into that group at the 1 spot and not the 2 spot, A guy from Millicent, another Forestville coach who wasn't coaching this year, perhaps the 16's nationals coach who had success last year with the group?...There is 4 that would be up to the job and all have the reputations to take over.

I know they have all been chucked around before, but this year one has put herself in the right spot to take over with a smooth transition.

BMF

It surprises me that other states do not at least try to imitate the level of attention to detail that the Vics seem to have.Not trying to have a go at other states but when you look at the cool downs ,eating ,hydration everything appears orchestrated compared to a haphazard style of some others.
Whilst I would argue about actual team selection ,you can not help to be impressed by the big blue machine that continues to roll on.As in business I think you should hunt down "best practice" and then attemp to mimick it.
Even in down times or days off the Vics appear as teams with tight control on what they wear and where they go.I think the best way of saying it would be the Vics come to win the tournament not to win a game

Just a question when you judge the country girls guards ,The vics 2 guards are quality and I thought they were as good as them

Just a question when you judge the country girls guards ,The vics 2 guards are quality and I thought they were as good as them

Vic Country MAIN scorer out injured

Qld sth are about 10-15 better than metro girls in my opinion.Faster guards and talls that will run out the WHOLE game.
Sth country girls were impressive against Vics and apparently the Vics were always concerned with this game as they see that they match up really well.
several people without bias were heard to say that it was one of the best games of 18 womens basketball you could ever see.It really did have everything and in the last quarter I believe the superior fitness and better rotation of players enabled the vics to break the game open.(Vics had 9 that could all start in any other team)
It was great to watch and even though the stats will not refelct it there was some awesome shooting by both teams in the first half.
The Vics seem to have gone up a notch and if the country girls had played that way against QLD they would have got away with that game ...TOO LITTLE TOO LATE
IMO Vic metro vs Sa Metro (vic by 25)
Qld Sth vs NSW metro (qld sth by 15)
Final =Vic Metro vs Qld sth (Vics by 18)

Metro girls seem to be doing well tho.

I guess we will see after tomorrow's game if today's loss for the SA Country girls will be a major setback.

SA Country men have had loss number 2 which will stop any top four chances now I would think...

Metro men are sitting top at the moment tho...

Going to be very hard for SA country girls to get through to finals mwdals,after huge loss today to Qld Sth.
They have to beat Vic Metro in the morning (who just beat NZ by 80)
Watched their game today and they just have not got enough weapons and get weaker at bottom end of bench.The starters did very well but wait of numbers got the better of them.
Final should be now Vic Metro V QLd Sth,I cant see anyone from other pook getting close to to either