Hoops

Winder: Stand and Deliver

The only thing we really know for sure .. -
is the 36ers next Import will be the 36th.
So I suppose if he ended up becoming a mixture of some previous , would be good.

Yeah right, and after 2 bad games, watch all the haters get on calling him a joke.


I really hope people give this kid a fair go....

Perhaps a different approach would be to allow each team 1 import under a reduced existing salary cap and a second import similar to the marquee player rule in the Soccer A- league. This would allow for teams that could afford it to obtain a quality player for all or part of the season. Those that are budget restricted need not spend any more than they do now. Teams may not need to spend much more than the existing cap but does enable the extra $50 - 200k that may be the difference in attracting a star player.

OK - so a line up with no imports, cover all positions and remain within points & salary caps. Anyone??

I can think of something that he needs

Piss off Julius^^

Winder needs to remember he was brought in as the point guard. Simple as that.

He's got a scorer's mentality (as it is dubbed). The 10-12 shots a game should only come when the first 2 options have been made unavailable (aka Balls isn't set or Devries isn't set).

It would be fine if the turnovers came for intercepted passes, but when the majority seem to come from fumbles attempting to slash, you have a problem.

His athletic ability should allow him to create more space for passing, like Luke Cooper can or Adam Gibson; I don't know why he isn't.

..... or he has a major problem

There's a lot of heat on the fella, but are we expecting too much? Is he beyond redemption, or does he need a tweak?

Well, we do expect a lot from our imports, and the main expectation is scoreboard pressure.

Had a look at the stats and looked at the per minute stats.

FGA: Leader. He puts up more FGA per minute than any other player. (Jacob Holmes is half the FGA per minute)
3PA: Rhys Carter is the leader. Darren and Troy next, CW 4th.
Rebounds: Jacob (as expected), CW mid way
Assists: Rhys is the disher, CW 4th, Balls last, but then again if you are the captain, you expect the get the ball!
TO's: Worst offender. Ninja the best, but then again, catch ball, shoot is pretty easy. Expect the main ball carrier to have more TO's than the rest of the team.
Steals: Rhys leader by a long way, CW second.

Looks like he's not too far off the pace intensity wise, but putting up a lot of shots and his shooting accuracy is what's letting him down. He has been shooting at 34% and the team 42%. 3P% at 13% - even U14 Div 1's shoot better than that. I believe if he was shooting at the team rate of FG 42% and 3P% 25%, he would be averaging over 20 ppg and we wouldn't be having this thread.

If Marty hasn't had him been practicing his shooting this week and nailing it, then we have a major problem.

I seem to recall - Farley was pretty good here at HSH and said he love to play here agen.
But sixers said they needed to sign a PG and SF.
Seems Winder is a SG
It might even cross Clarke's mind that he himself is in the wrong step, later on - I just kinda think he'll keep going with Winder DeVries Hill Holmes Ballinger , a whole lot longer.

Jack of all trades master of none.
Not the guy I want to see running show. Too frenetic, out of control.
Asset seems to be athleticism. Get the ball out of hands, except in transition, and post him up, if the intention is to keep him.
Can't seem him being of any use anywhere else.

so, Dec03 - we have to cut someone , otherwise Creek can't play.

I imagine that they'll cut Harris after playing 3minutes - not all of his work was perfect.
He's only as good as Schenscher , who had a lot wrong, too !

I never had a problem with Gilchrist last year, I had an issue with Groves and Gilchrist playing at the same time on court.

Essentially you had 2 combo-guards playing the same spot at the same time and neither could run the team because the other was trying to take over.

I'd welcome back JG if he was available; though granted I couldn't honestly say whether he would be interested depending on what so of "feedback" he was given.

I don't want any part of Tucker, Aussie or not, he doesn't fit our rebuild plan. If we are cutting players that aren't imports we should only be replacing them with young aussies. Like if a Hugh Greenwood or someone like that was willing to come out then maybe we can consider cutting Ng but no way do we even contemplate cutting Ng for Tucker.

Say we were to replace Winder, wouldnt right now be the time to do it given we dont have a game for a couple of weeks,

say have a replacement looked at, selected and signed by say wednesday or thursday, in Aus by Saturday, then it gives them a week to train and the admin to get all the clearences done before he plays his first game.

Its also easier to turn around the season currently than it would be if we had a few more losses in a months time.

Just a thought.

I have been firmly in the keep Winder corner all season...starting to think differently tho...I don't care if he doesn't put up 20ppg, he just needs to get more efficient. I can handle the odd 2 for 10 night but not consistantly.

Winder seems to have had another shocker, going 2-10 from the field.

Honestly, I'm getting sick of us taking these players who had great careers in D-League or college but can't consistently produce in the NBL.

Next season I'd like to see the Sixers keep Devries as a sole import and open up the spot to a proven NBL caliber player - perhaps a big man to take some front court load off Balls, and get back to running our offence through him. I think the days of needing 2 high-quality imports to succeed in this league are well and truly over and if we continue signing these untested, unproven college or D League "stars", we'll more often than not be shooting ourselves in the foot.