Hoops

Players getting looked after....

This is a interesting topic for the first two weeks of the season this year (2006)

last weeks game

Panther was 4/6 free throws with only Cam Wilson and Damien Scantlon shooting more free throws.

South 38 FT to 32

Another example is Daren Ng being called for 5 fouls even though he shot 40 points and is a "name player"

great comment anon - you really put forward a case, and back it up well too. Its good to see someone here with an intelligent opinion, and not afriad to put a name to it aswell....keep up the good work!

Onlooker, do u have any idea what the new referee director has implemented or is working on?
I suggest you get ur facts straight and stay what u r-an onlooker, and dont bring ur sorry face around basketball, it will kill it.

Onlooker ...

Sour grapes .. prolific fouler ?

"buy a keno ticket .. play the pokies " ?? - thats just what we need another clown endorsing gambling !!

So confusing ... Anonymous (#28323) is backing me up, telling Anonymous (#28311) that there is a need for preventative officiating.

Talking to players to obviate the need to call some fouls (preventative officiating) is a directive given to umpires from FIBA, BA, BASA and on down.

i.e. we would not be doing our job correctly if we CALLED all contact as fouls (as suggested by Anonymous-28311).

i.e. don't complain about little hand checks, or contact on a pass that ended up precisely where it was intended to go.

That being said, hard contact should always be called as a foul.

i think you'll find that players like Panther, and other with similar intencity 'seem' to be picked on due to their style of play. Although there are a number of 50/50 calls, no calls etc in basketball, these players seem to always have the fouls go against them. It is nothing to do with who they are, but how they play. It happens in every league everywhere in the world, the sooner we recognise that the sooner we can all give the refs a break.

Ref,

That's a pretty dangerous thing to say .. as a referee you should not need to respect the players you umpire... only the rules. I'd check that with your senior supervisors.

Bringing a system of 'calls' for 'respect' into this is probably not what you meant to do ( i hope !) .. and you should probably back peddle out of this one.

Good luck.

Why do refs call the "better" players by their first names? It all comes down to prventive officiating ...

Preventive officiting: when a ref verbally tells players to change what they are doing, so that there hopefully will be no need to call a foul. e.g. "hands out", "keep it straight" (in the post), "don't hook", "don't hold".

Most of the time a player will not respond to this unless you clearly indicate to whom you are referring. Hence the need to use a name, or singlet number. Clearly using a name will get better recognition from the intended player.

That is why I try to use a person's name whenever possible. They tend to listen more. Obviously, the more "famous" the player is, the longer they played in the league (in some cases if they have played against me in div 2 [in years gone by], and gone on to better things), the more likely it is that I will know their name.

To the not-so-famous: come up and introduce yourselves, and maybe I'll call you by name too.

Bizzy ...

You idiot !! You really think that ref's don't want "star" players moving interstate? ...and therefore look after them on the foul count .. HAHAHAHAH ...

I agree with Panther it aint a charity !

I'd love to hear from the ref's who im sure will tell you your 'theory' is unsound !