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Sixers lose home game to Cairns

Breakers are top of the table with Perth and often have 4-5 players in double figures and the top scorer usually only has a few points more than the next 2 guys.

I also think Johnson and Creek are very promising talents with still a lot of improvement to come, but you must get 2 guns as imports. This is almost the most important job coaches have. Simpson is a gun, unfortunately Warren isn't.

And yes Isaac that was me on Adelaide Now. Thanks for the correction, however that means he still then only took around 6-8 legit shots. That's mental. He should be getting the ball down low regularly. If he gets it in the right spot he's a beast to deal with. He can't shoot from beyond 10 feet so if he gets position we need to reward him.

Oops, my bad, was up too late last night. Get an American PG as first priority. My %'s are correct, I said current team and Ballinger and Crosswell are out for the year. Can't gauge Bartlett yet as he's only played a few games.

Some good arguments "anon" but I seem to remember teams like the Magic and Wildcats being pretty solid on D, plus our 1998 team used to run the break a fair bit, leading to easier points and hence better FG%'s. Perth has 7 regulars shooting over 44% this year, mainly because they run a good offense that keeps the ball moving until they find an open man (see Game 1 vs Adelaide this year).

Forcey, there have also been several significant changes to consider since 1998 as well, being the move to 40 minute games, the introduction of the extended three point line, and the general change to the way team defence has been played (championed by Goorjian's Sydney teams in the early 2000's).

EC, I've been to every home game this year and I watch what I can of the other NBL games. It's pretty accepted the umpiring standard here has dropped over the last decade and we see examples of this league wide for all teams eg Patty Mills flop earlier this season. I agree we copped some stinkers but it depends on how you watch the game (you may also notice many Crows fans think we get screwed by the umps too). I get that some of the bad ones were at crucial times but you don't even worry about it when you can execute. Let me go "Moneyball" here for a minute.

Number of players on our current team who shoot over 44% from the field: 2 (DJ and DS)

Numbers of players on our 1998 team who shot over 44%: 9 (Mee,Maher,Rees,Brooks,Cattalini,Ninnis,Rillie,Sapwell,Brogan)

Number of players on our current bench who average 5+ pts a game: 1 (Ng)

Number of players on the 1998 bench who averaged 5+ pts a game: 4 (Ninnis,Sapwell,Davis,Rillie)

We just don't have the firepower. Warren is shooting at 40%, Weigh 37%. None of the 1998 team was near this. We don't have the cattle. A frontcourt of Creek,Simpson,Johnson,Weigh and Ballinger or Helliwell is a nice start for next season but the backcourt needs blowing up. We need two imports for the backcourt (pass first, bigger PG and a deadly shooter who can play D) and I'd keep Ng and Herbert.

Refs sucked, but that's not unusual and didn't cost us the game.

Cairns were awful, we were worse.

This continues as long as Clarke keeps coaching IMO.

Nothing new here.

Given that refs and their reffing have gone up shit creek without a paddle, on my next game at home; im gonna tell the guys on floor to flop and see what happens. Do we get called or will the refs get involved and do something about it.

You bet, they will question the coaching, but of the NBL allow it, it must be ok

EC and others- enough with the refs! They made some bad calls but this is the state of the NBL. Every other team (ie Townsville) gets them too. I don't remember complaining about the refs much back in the title days. The team is struggling and we all are desperate for wins (especially season ticket holders). Let's not pretend we're a playoff team if the refs give us a break, we're mediocre and we need everything working for us to get a win. The board needs to sit and ask some tough questions ie

What can we salvage from the season?
Do we stick with Chris Warren?
What's the story with Weigh's treatment vs Creek's?


Boti's article today alluded to other problems too and they need to be addressed. The board was ruthless in 1993 when it cut Monson and masterminded a plan to bring in Dunlap, is this current board made of the same stuff?

Clarke has undoubted knowledge of basketball but I question his ability to communicate the other stuff with players and how to rotate players. When you watch 36er timeouts they are all about plays to run and very little 1-on-1 time is given to address players mistakes/lapses etc or good old "rockets" to fire the team up.

Simpsons play was a charge in my opinion, refs did ok overall, they are not gonna be perfect and didn't decide the game.

If helliwell had a haircut and got rid of the mo then the refs may respect him..

We just don't know how to win. That's the obvious part. We tighten up and then chase our tails.

So frustrating to see simpon work down low and get a great seal with warren or grabby on his back only to see the guards waste 10 seconds fluffing with the ball and then crosswhite or loughton switch over. I play social ball and I could have got Simpson the ball easily enough. If you can't create the play you should be a point guard.

Warren is our main issue in my opinion. Too small, cant create or defend and not a pass first guard. One fast break he went against Laughton I think when as a pg he had Simpson trailing all you do is go at their body and pass to Simpson for the dunk. Court awareness. Simple. Basketball isn't really that hard..

A mood approaching one win , one loss , one win , one loss . A lotta other teams I seen do this for a while.
Ain't it just like Crows n Power did at stages.
Helliwell n Herbert's best games last game and now their worst. Warren one good one and one bad one.
Well , that's the way it goes for a while.

The refs were pathetic, but that is not why we lost the game. I was tempted to wave a $50 note under Ray Hunt's nose to see if we could get some good calls, but realised that it wasn't worth it.

The Taipans were pretty bad last night and I was watching their plays wondering "how the F are these guys 7 and 7 coming into the game". Wilson just looks unfit and his footwork in defense was questionable. A couple of times our Warren had him stumbling, but we didn't capitalise on that.

A couple of times I looked at the matchups and thought "the Sixers have the benefit in each matchup". Then, after I put my cornetto wrapper in the bin, I would look up and see the subs and think "The Taipans now have the upper hand"

The Taipans offences were simple in design and basically every possession they had they ran the clock down to single digits to make the most of their possession. Their shots were average to say the least and jacked up some average shots on some possessions just to beat the 24 seconds. But, the key point was they got the shot up.

The Sixers offences appeared to be more complicated than the computer programming of the space shuttle's toilet. Poor shooting was our downfall. The team put up more shots than them and lost.

Put simply, the Taipan were bad, but the Sixers were worse. This round, the Taipans were the Sixers and the Sixers were Sydney.

Hydra90 got the address off Sixers site leeanne@adelaide36rs.com

Orbit I know that in general it's not always the refs and that I look at any team I support throgh rose colored glasses. But last night it was so obvious that the refs, particularly Fillmer and Hunt, made soft and particularly strange calls against the Sixers in the last 2 minutes in each of the 1st, 2nd and last quarters. There was no need in the third, Marty took care of that.

Has anyone else noted that when Fillmer makes a clanger his chin drops down toward his chest and he tends to stare into the ground.

Isaac I genuinely think that the refs had a significant influence on the final score. In both the first and second quarters we had six point leads and looking to build on that only to be pegged back and in the last we were looking like we were getting back into the game when Ray Hunt called the charge, he was side on at the centre of the court while the other ref was head on with a better view of the contact, on Diamon which stopped our run.

I have already emailed Leeeanne,and received a reply, expressing my discussed at the refereeing. The lack of consistency and poor decisions made by the refereeing panel HAVE been conveyed to the NBL

Pathetic umpiring tonight. Next time Cairns are in town I am calling Dean Lukin. The sight of Dodwell flapping around on the deck reminded me of a tuna. Dean will be able to "gaff 'em and pack 'em"

There was an altercation after the game involved Jamar Wilson and Mark Radford. Both had to be physically separated or else there would have been fisticuffs.

Unsure what sparked it.

The officiating was a mess, so many guys jumping into defenders and the officials generally wouldn't call it unless it was overly ridiculous.

I reckon things would improve drastically if we moved Creek to SF and bought Weigh off the bench and made sure DJ and DS were taking 40-50% of the shots. The crazy thing is that tonight DS took 11 shots, but had 7 offensive boards, meaning he likely took only 4 shots for his 16pts (as most of his offensive boards are putbacks).

DJ and DS- 11/24
The rest- 11/42

Mental.

There's plenty more thoughts and number crunching on my blog below

http://36reasons.blogspot.com/2012/01/sixers-lose.html

The officiating was not strange it was flat out incompetent at best or downright dishonest at worst. With two minutes to go in both the first and second quarters the Sixers were up by 6 only to be called for phantom fouls and in the last we were looking to start a run with 1 minute 32 to go and Diamon was called for a charge by Ray "the Sixers will never win while I'm in charge" Hunt from the halfway line where he was side on to the play. I ask again are referees allowed to bet on the reults of games.

Holmes is gonna bother you a bit . when you see him tonite , you'll feel more depressed.

The officiating was mind blowing/puzzling at times. Seems Cairns forwards can push and shove, and get the foul yet down our end, cairns get to flop and its called a charge.

Good crowd though. Perhaps most games should have the lightning starting at 5.30pm to get good numbers.

Defensively, we donthave the faintest idea whats going on. We let them right into the basket and you reckon they let us? Not on your life.

If the coach cant coach, then perhaps its high time to look for another job.

btw, what happened after the game? Never seen two clubs mingle like that

Yes another loss at home,Warren(sixers)couldnt score 3s in the last few mins,other Warren was a match winner for Cairns,like someone said he will be the x-factor,and he was tonight 24points.Next week NZ and the Cairns home again ,if we lose next 2 no hope of a shot at 4th spot.Clarke needs to go and get a coach who knows how to do rotations.If we finish 2nd bottom with less wins then SOS Group must look at new coach .

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