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Years ago

3 on 3 Who wins this matchup?

Reggie, thanks for elaborating on the points at least.

When I'm quoting someone else I'll make sure to specify the person as you have an inability to read previous posts by other people beyond those that have your name in it.

Since those quotes weren't pulled from your post but anon's; all I did was paraphrased your quote of: 'I'm not sure you get it. You're letting your love for the 90's guys cloud reason.'

Back to your counterpoints anyway:

* 'You mentioned the 1 inch height advantage of Bird over Lebron... pretty irrelevent. Lebrons beastly physique would overcome this 2cm height deficit'

I mentioned height being a factor yes. While height doesn't matter, the arm length and leaping ability that comes with it does. My arguement back is that all 3 of the old guys were lanky dudes capable of getting up to contest a shot. They also come from an era where there was much more physicality, so I doubt Lebron's build would mean much. Still beneficial, but not 'beastly'

* '- Really the most important point is that in a 3v3 comp, the game becomes an isolation game. The modern day stars have 3 guys capable of breaking down their opponent. MJ is the only 90's guy who can. This really is enough to get the modern day guys the victory.'

The modern day guys are using moves that were put together by the guys they're playing. Apart from the likes of CP3, D-Rose and D-Will who are quick enough to put together faster dribble combos; the skill set is the same stuff from 20 years ago. Quickness might be a factor but I still see that as in favour of the oldies.

I'd also argue that while 3v3 in half-court is more iso, passing is still a valid tactic, and Magic does it better than the rest. Your point on ISO is still valid but I've seen enough footage of Bird and Magic to know that they are just as capable of making their own shot as everyone else.

I'd also point out another factor that since you're talking about 3v3 halfcourt, Durant and Jordan are the only ones whose game translates to street game.

Years ago

First off Reggie and Anon, I haven't mentioned once that the 80's/90's team could beat the modern day stars. I simply put together an arguement for discussion.

The fact that your arguements are 'Come on!' and 'They would destroy the 90's stars' are the sort of statements that someone would say if their 'love of modern day stars clouded their judgement'.

I would have preferred it if the conversation could have been more along the lines of 'That's a good point, but here's my arguement against'.

A couple of points to dicuss:

* Player physique and technique may have evolved in 20 years, but that doesn't mean player IQ miraculously does. Gym work and drills doesn't change a person's ability to know how/when to grab a board or when to read a pass and go for a steal. That's individual talent.

* Jordan, Magic and Bird were all very tall players. Durant is the only one that doesn't give up height advantage in this match-up. While it doesn't guarantee 100% lockdown of a player, it would certainly help on defence.

Years ago

lol @ anon.

Years ago

Speed and Athleticism don't mean squat if you can't make a shot.

You would put MJ on Lebron considering he's the best defender of the six. Magic and Bird may not be great defenders, but they're long enough to put off a shot.

Besides, considering it would be an ego clash; you would more than likely have Lebron, Durant and Kobe trying to match Jordan shot for shot, which would mean by the 3rd quarter, there wouldn't be any dunks; just jump shooting.

 

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