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Years ago

Magics 25 under 16 girls.

Gotta love BSA!

Years ago

A wise club would put funds in that direction

Years ago

Revenue to fund the ABL team?


On courts results is about getting sufficient critical mass to generate good players. That can be achieved through association or via their own teams. The district club would have an association fee for any of their affiliated teams.

As an aside, based on the recent season boys results only. Grouping the clubs into those with more than 23 boys teams and those with less than 23. Those "larger" clubs are at a significant advantage.

Large Club:
Ave Div 1 ladder position: 4.38
Ave Div 2 ladder position: 4.77
Ave Pro/Rel ladder position: 4.88

Smaller Club:
Ave Div 1 ladder position: 6.40
Ave Div 2 ladder position: 8.65
Ave Pro/Rel ladder position: 4.67

The key to having really good players at the top of the pyramid is to have a broad pyramid base. Just as Coles and Woolies have their "no frills" brands, why would a district club not want an affiliation with a "no frills" brand aimed at a lower level?

Years ago

337, I don't think a feeder club should be playing in the same comp.

Div 1 and 2: ten district clubs
Div 3 and below: clubs that are associated with the district clubs and have linkages to district clubs

Div 1 and 2: "full fees"
Div 3 and below: "lower fees", but a step above social
"Social": beginners

Years ago

I actually think that clubs like Magic and Torrens Valley have a place in District Basketball. I believe there should be more "low end" clubs, but playing at Div 3 level. They offer a low cost option for those players who want "a bit more than social" but "don't want the seriousness of higher comp".

What I would like to see is the ten "full" clubs play DIv 1 and 2, but then each of those clubs have low cost feeder clubs supporting those full clubs and offering a pathway to a higher level.

Each District Club would have a number of other clubs feeding them players who want to play at a higher level and the District Clubs can focus on fewer teams, but offer broader developmental support. That's pretty much an association model, but does that make sense?

Years ago

@anon - last time I checked, Magic have achieved infinitely less than Woodville or West Adelaide.

If Magic are relying on a rich (phantom) sponsor to compete and grow the club, then just fold right now and stop being a detriment to SA basketball.

Years ago

This situation speaks volumes of the state of girls basketball at district level.

Woodville - struggling to field a single U16 team
South - advertising for girls, struggling for teams

Centrals - 2 teams in current season
Eastern - 2 teams in current season
West - 3 teams in current season
North - 3 teams in current season
Southern - 3 teams in current season

Sturt - 4 teams currently, will probably field 4 teams next season
Norwood - 5 teams currently - same again?
Forestville - 5 teams in current season, 50 players in next season squad.

Years ago

Ringlord, I believe you were merely making the point that having three teams in an age group and them being forced into div3 is unfair, not that having the three teams in one division was a 'feat'.

Having cleared the air of prejudice, I'm retty sure any high-ranking member of your club could provide you the incredibly obvious answer: Western Magic doesn't have an ABA Men's or Women's team. Ergo, the club isn't entitled to nominate teams for whatever division they see fit.

Unless things work in your favour and it saves Basketball SA scheduling issues, expect to have three div3 teams for the Summer season.

Also, you should already be aware of this, since was exactly the case over the past Summer season for your Magic U14 Girls - funny enough, you had three teams in div3 then too!

One more point: I've coached against the group in U14 div2 currently, and there's no way they would be in the top half of div2...

 

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