Hoops

Breakers vs 36ers game thread

Maybe the redbacks went out there for the fourth quarter.

Alot can be achieved in a minute...

If you give the opposition an opportunity like the 36ers did.

Macdub, he was genius all night, those 2 and a half minutes turned the game.

A lot can be achieved in a minute!

Cedric Jackson Vs Gary Ervin NSEC next week. Can't wait to these two go at it.

Maybe, like other seasons, we just need 6-7 weeks to gel?

Jack Toft, Ced was brillant all night.

But to say "So, I would say that a patch of pure genius by Cedric "The Sixer Slayer" was probably the only real difference in the two teams on the night"

At the end of the day, it is a 40 minute game.

Those steals that Ced got were thanks to some pretty average basketball from the 36ers.
Blame the 36ers for that! Don't just put it down to 'oh the other team was better than us'

- Weigh should have got the DR off the FT. To give up an OR to the opposition on a FT is unacceptable

-Gibbo's turnover to Ced, that led to Ced's dunk was just bad ballhandling.

-Gibbo fouled Jackson and sent him to the line for the bonus.

From those 3 plays, Ced scored 7 points.

So I wouldn't say Ced won it single handedly and that he would be harder to stop than your ex-wife with your credit card.

At the end of the day, he simply made the most of the opportunities that presented him because of the 36ers elementary (and unacceptable) mistakes.

If the 36ers continue to make those mistakes a number of players in the league could do the same damage if given those opportunities..Lisch, Ervin, Crawford

Ricky could catch though....

Even though I was optimistic for the Sixers to get the win heading over to New Zealand, the reality of the situation was that I was expecting a single figure loss against the back-to-back champs.
I didn't see the game live, but I watched the replay on NBL.tv, and noticed something about the way Schenscher was playing in the post.

He would get the catch in a reasonable position to make some kind of post move and more often then not he would turn back to the middle of the key for his shot.
The Breakers defenders seemed to pick up on this pretty quickly and Hudson/Vukona/Pledger were hedging towards the middle of the key while Schensch had his back to the basket, and yet I didn't see a point where he was aware of this and would turn to the baseline and have an open shot.

People on here which are blaming the lack of production from Schenscher on the coaches are ridiculous. The coaches can call the plays which lead to post touches but the entry passes, post moves, scoring and general effort all fall squarely on the players who are on the floor.

I didn't watch the game on NBL tv, but it seems the Sixers were in the mix at 3 Qtr time.

Most people will agree that the chances of the Sixers winning the game were low, but had a good chance of pulling off an upset.

The first 2 minutes of the quarter were OK, but the next 2 and a half .... enter Cedric the Slayer, who single handedly won the game for the Breakers. By the time the timout was called, they Breakers went from +1 to +12. After the time out they lead went from +12 to +14.

So what happened in those 2 1/2 minutes? It started with a foul on Abercrombie who made both FT's.
Turnover by DJ, steal by Cedric, 3PM to CJ, assist Cedric
Sixers possession, 2PA by Weigh, rebound Cedric the Brave
Vukona fouls DJ, no shot off
On Sixers next possession, Gibbo 2PM, Weigh assist (margin 4 to Breakers and still anyone's game)
On Breaker's next possession, Cedric the Lucky get 3PM.
6:38 to go: Breakers +7, still anyone's game, Marty calls timeout (the smart thing to do)
First possession back, Petrie 2PA, Pledger rebounds
Their possession now, Boucher 2PA, but Corletto gets the OR, they go again, Cedric "Eagle Eye" Jackson 2PM. At 5:54 it's Breakers by +9 (still anyone's game) but Gibbo has fouled Jackson and so he gets a bonus throw that he misses, but get the OR and converts the chance into a 3PM (+12)

Time out called. For rest of game, looked pretty even.

So, I would say that a patch of pure genius by Cedric "The Sixer Slayer" was probably the only real difference in the two teams on the night. During those 2 and a half minutes he would have been harder to stop than an ex-wife with your credit card on a shopping spree in New York with her sister and best friend.

Also, late in that game, although Clarke was demonstrating a play on the whiteboard, if you listen, he was also telling his players to trust their instincts and make a different play if the set they're running looks like being shut down.

They were both Intentional Fouls and both got dealt with accordingly.

Sixers kept in touch because the Breakers weren't playing too much better. Travels, shitty passes and low shooting percentages kept it close till the last quarter.

Gibson again failed to trouble Cedric Jackson.

Didnt see the start of the last quarter BeanTown.
My fiancee told me i got back to the seat at 5;50 left in last. Bar and toilet so much more important when travelling away.

Oops

Ced Jax won them that game, check out his contribution at the start of the 4th

Assist
Steal
Steal
Assist
Defensive rebound
3 pointer
2 pointer
Missed FT
Offensive Rebound
3 pointer
Steal
2 pointer

Turned a 1pt deficit into a 17 point lead in less than 5 minutes. A class above.

My main thoughts..........

-It is troublesome we look a lot better with Petrie at the 4 and DJ at the 5
-We're struggling with the guard rotations. Cadee isn't getting his team mates involved enough, Gibson looks better at the 1 than the 2, Crosswell is getting very spotty minutes (sometimes as the off guard), Massingale is getting very limited opportunities.
-Weigh barely got a look tonight after such a good first up game.

Let's not panic yet. The team has undergone a massive overhaul, including 3 new starters but even in the win the above stood out. It's up to Clarke now to work out how manage the roster.

Read my blog for more

http://www.36reasons.net/2012/10/4-minutes-and-57-seconds-of-carnage.html

Eli1, Clarke actually did call a timeout when the margin was 7 points.

Just watched the last quarter. That was just the Cedric Jackson show, aided and abetted by some atrocious passing by the Sixers.

A big problem thus far this season is that Gibson seems the only guard who can make anything happen. Cadee was disappointing in that last quarter and Crosswell did nothing either.

Need another guard to step up, because you could see that Gibson was a bit gassed late in the 4th quarter.

Was Luke still wearing all that strapping on his shoulder and leg this week? I suspect that he is carrying some injuries that are affecting him. Even uninjured and at his best though, Big Red has always had his limitations. Petrie is a far better player.

Haven't watched the game yet, but can't say I'm surprised that the Kiwis came out hard and smashed us on the boards. Apart from Petrie, we are pretty soft in the frontcourt.

I am surprised to hear that we struggled with their press though. Between Gibbo, Crosswell and Cadee, we should've been able to manage.

I remember getting rubbished for saying that Schensher is not the best Centre in the league. Good to see Hudson and Pledger have a good game after getting smashed by the Wildcats.
Isaac, I thought it was more a case of Abercrombies ankle keeping him quiet rather than Weigh, may be wrong as I didn't catch the whole game. He just looked a bit tentative when driving and didn't look like he was pushing off hard.

Very poor quality in the first half, but they seem to have got their act together in the second because the quality wasn't too bad. Schencher just dished up for your team what he did for ours in the last two seasons for us. He has one good game and then he's bad. A lot of people here were glad to see him go. He either misses his hook shot, can't catch the ball under the basket, steps or fouls. When does the next game start on NBL TV does anyone know.

I gotta ask why call a timeout when almost 5 mins is played and we've scored 2 to the breakers 14? wouldnt it have been better to call a timeout when the margin was around 6-8 points? clsrke seems to leave it so late.

its really disappointing when you fly all the way there, the team plays 3 quarters of spirited ball and u have a coach who doesnt think.

hopefully he's on the same flight as me tomorrow morning! (clarke)

What's up with Vasiljevic not getting any time?

I think at this point I'm just going to give up on the NZ based games because streaming for those is shocking.

Pledger is going to have a monster game tonight; typical number of no-calls on the Vukona/Boucher holding and screen.

Can someone tell me what happened to cradling the ball before going for a layup? So many blocks and denials at the rim because they don't go in with two hands.

DJ getting decent position, then trying to serve up the ball like a Waiter.

PeterJohn - Combination of bad positioning and being out hustled.

Luke seems to have butterfingers at the moment. It's the perimeter shooting that's keeping us in touch right now.

8 Turnovers for the Breakers.

Unfortunately getting negated by the poor shooting.

Schenscher was the most blocked player in the league last season and he's at least been up there for the past few seasons. He is well overrated and his impact on the team will be even less in this team than at the Crocs. They have run nothing through him so far and with the personnel Adelaide have, I can't see Schensch doing anything but 8 points and 5 rebounds (being very generous on the boards) at about 40-45% from the field. In terms of reputation of a quality player, he has definitely coasting off making it into the NBA all those years ago.

There you go Luke. Hustle to recover your miss and power that shit through!

*sigh*

Wild Layup from Luke.

Other note: clearly our weakness to full court pressure hasn't been patched yet.

It's improved for me now. It's actually streaming but I'm fairly sure that I'm about 2 minutes behind the action.

Skip, I tried the restart of the stream a few times and it didn't make all that much of a difference.

21 - 17, Breakers up at end of the 1st.

Thank God for Johnson and Petrie - otherwise this would be looking very ugly.

Stop / start stream for me. Any suggestions?

yup, shit gain. is on/off constantly. I have the fastest net you can get, and it isnt working properly. I want my money back

10 seconds into the game for me and the Stream has already died.

Pretty sub-par service thus far two weeks running.

http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/