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Crowd Reaction - Friday 27th

BJF, you are reading things into my posts which I haven't even said. You're playing a dangerous game there buddy. Don't make stuff up.


the interweb is a dangerous place lmao

Lets put it another way which you may understand marus if you hated your boss would you say it in public where he would have a great chance of hearing it.

Clarke : " I don't take it personal . "
The article (sundaymail) also mentions the 3yearplan ,
although weigh lovers are pouring cold water over the fact that it exists.

Read that too Camel and thought Marty missed the chance to reach out to disgruntled fans and encourage those who booed to harness that passion and support the players when they appear to be struggling.

Something along the lines of "we love the passion of our fans, we walk taller when the crowd is with us and supporting us emotionally, we need them to help us find that extra 10% sometimes, it's so much harder if they don't have our backs"

Instead he has pretty well endorsed people booing in the future on the justification they purchased a ticket.

Poor Marty, can't take a trick.

Clarke's happy : " Fans can boo , the players effort was great and we train hard. "
Also, reading Clarke , seems I can comment some of the time not all of the time as I go to some training

Some of you guys are funny, lets keep Marty Clark and see how the team is going in 3 years, yeah sure, you think the talanted players Adelaide have bought are going to hang around a losing club until the coach learns how to coach, what crap.

I think Marty needs to work on his PR a bit to make him more appealing to fans

@paul - apologies if I'm mistaken. My information came from the Breakers' Wikipedia page since pas NBL information is hard to come by.

@Marcus Camby - no idea what you're on about with regards to your tablet... do you mean that your posts defending Marty Clarke were simple mistakes?

If so, that's one tablet gone haywire!

Things which probably saved Lemanis:

- NZ viewpoints towards their teams in Australasia competitions. The NZ media and fans understand that Australian comps like the NRL, Super Rugby etc. are extremely tough to win and so I think that gave Lemanis a bit of leniency. No Kiwi expects a kiwi team to win an Australian comp (and especially not a team in their 3rd season -- when Lemanis took control)

- He never gave an ultimatum like Clarke. He never said about a 3 year plan etc.

- The Breakers were in just their 3 season when Lemanis took over. So I think the owners were concerned with 'forming the identity and culture of the club' as much as they were concerned about wins.

- Don't want to comment too much on the respective rosters, as not too sure about them fully. But from what I have seen, the 36ers roster looks stronger across many positions and deeper. From what I remember, the Breakers had stud imports like Powell, Melzer (who did well), Chappelle etc. and decent locals like Olson and Pepper, but they had some average players filling the other positions.
It looks as though the 36ers have more depth than the Breakers teams of old, yet the games back in the day were 48 minutes.

U need luck to win a championship to!!!!

@Marcus Camby - but everyone WASN'T on board with Lemanis... that's why fans were calling for his head!

Word of advise: don't re-frame information to suit your purpose, then click the 'undo' button to make another argument.

@Mystro - actually, the year the Breakers signed Kirk Penney they DID make the playoffs, eventually losing to the defending champions Brisbane Bullets in the elimination final.

@Marcus Camby -
Year 1/2: Andrej Lemanis fared similar to Marty Clarke in his first two seasons, and both were criticized. Fair enough.

Lemanis' 3rd Year: accrued a talented roster that was capable of winning games, and did just that: making the playoffs for the first time in Breakers' history.

Clarke's 3rd Year (thus far): 5-8, and under-performing given the talent they accrued following the demise of the Gold Coast Blaze.

If Clarke doesn't begin putting together a winning season, then you're 'Andrej Lemanis argument' isn't a very sound one...

FUN FACT:
Scott Ninnis only lasted two years (25-33 overall record) at the 36ers due to leading the club to their worst record ever of 10-18 in his second year of a three-year-contract... only to be surpassed by Marty Clarke's 9-19 record the following season.

Lucky the breakers have been free from injury!!! How would they go if jackson or wilkinson went down for a season???

Lemanis did a heap of great things behind the scenes that gave people confidence in him, especially the development program and getting CJ Bruton over here was great for the Breakers and basketball in NZ. He made all the players available to the public after games and as a result the public have embraced the franchise although winning has definitely helped get bums on seats.

actually Lemanis did have a good squad the year before the championship, he didn't make the playoffs despite having the best player in the league in Kirk Penney and 3 quarters of Tallblacks and the feeling was if he can't do it with these guys is he capable of doing it at all. luckily management saw the big picture.

^ exactly but everyone wants a championship yesterday. I believe the first season most of the squad was already contracted so it was a case of making best with what he had and then he set about putting things in place to build a club culture that could succeed and not just once but over multiple years. It took him a while and there were plenty of times that uneducated Herald reporters called for him to be sacked (the season before the 1st championship where they went on a big run towards the end after picking up Braswell only to just fall short of the playoffs).

I think you could pretty much say 100% of those boos were aimed at two men

What a great game, The Sixers still keep there final eight dream alive. Good all round balance with Hodge making a spectacular debut in front of his home crowd but take nothing away from "Ballsey" Adam Ballinger who seems to score but yet go un-noticed on his way to a game high points tally. Your post?