Hoops

36ers vs Crocs, Jan 4

No, the only monumental mistake we made was hiring MC. He came with all glitz and glammer awards and got us where?

Now yes, you can have a coach and then the team but for 3 years we have lost this player and lost that player, and those players who've gone became great players for their new clubs. What did we gain, nothing!

So yes, its always the players fault and never the coach Marcus Camby. Cos the coach is the 'goody two shoes' where everyone else is the martyr or blood-hound.

If ever we look for a scape-goat, hello!
Smoke n mirrors work well but eventually the public always get with that sort of program.

Yeah, correct, but the question is why are they dropping the ball in the second half?

The underlying issue with the Sixers is the second half IMO.

In games won by Sixers, they have won 60% of the first half, and by coincidence in games lost by the Sixers the have won 60% of first halves. Seems they are coming out of the blocks well.

In games won by the Sixers, they have won 100% of second halves, but only won 20% of halves in their losses. Seems coming around the bend into to final straight they have a problem.

Interestingly, in wins they have won 70% of second half quarters, but in losses they have only won 20% of final quarters.

I am not concerned with adjustments during games. Game night coaching/ feel is not his strong point.
But when a coach is in his 3rd year and we continue to see the same sloppy mistakes over and over and over.
Weighs passing inside to the post player. Surely by now it should be so sharp as to be able to put it to the advantage of his player and away from defender.
Inbound passing plays. By now we should have bread and butter plays that get open shots consistently.
Full court press offence. It has been a failure since day one. Opposition scouting says full court press on 6ers gives them trouble. For some reason this does not exist against Perth.
Half court trap defence. Is there a word for less than token.
Not sure who's responsibility it is to make sure these skills improve, but I would guess it would probably be the coach.

The results speak for themselves. A 14 point pants down drubbing on your home court. 7 losses in a row. the same team can beat Perth in Perth.That is the reality. The way the team performs is a reflection of the coach. Talent is not a question, getting the best out of players. That is something he has to do. Why do The players lose confidence and belief as every season progresses. A coach is supposed to build a team towards the end of the year. It's his team and his responsibility. The numbers in the W/L columns are his. If players don't perform as he wants, get some new ones who can, (Gibson, Petrie, Schenscher, Weigh, Johnson, Creek,) the problem being this coach has done that. He's not a rookie coach anymore. He has the players. His ability to grow a team and their mindset, confidence, belief is nonexistent. Where has the coach in his 3 year term given the players something to read in the media that gets them up.,ie stroke their ego.
The Crows are a classic example. Neil Craig recruited and tried to develop footballers as athletes, robots. In comes Sanderson, throws out the bikes and trains footballers to be footballers. Who would of guessed what would happen.

@Marcus Camby

Those other coaches you mentioned would have fashioned a win with players throwing garbage. That is why they won titles, yes correct titles. And that would be because even though the other guys throw up garbage they set a structure that the players know and help to clean up the trash. Remember that guy named Paul Rees and the other one, what's his name, ah yes Mark Nash and even um, um Jason Williams.

Martin Cattalini, now THERE was a small forward! Did the Sixers ever have a better player at that position? Man I miss those days.

I agree Matt, this season does feel like that Claxton season. I have little doubt that we will take a major leap forward next season if management chooses the right coach for this team.

Re: Smyth, it was tragic what happened with his coaching career in Adelaide. When I left in 2001 to live overseas, we were on the way to our 3rd championship in five years. We lost in the semis the other two years and were basically screwed out of a 4th title by THAT phantom foul call on Lowry at halfcourt.

I came home at the end of 2003 and within a very short time found that we were running a team of old, past it players and had a coach who was just going through the motions, because he knew he didn't have the financial support from ownership to put a decent team on the floor.

If Smyth still has the desire to win titles, I would love to see him back at the helm of the Sixers. I get the feeling that ship has sailed though.

some franchises are yet to win A championship

Anon #396229 - you sound like a soul with a broken heart and I might understand your frustration but be careful what you wish for. I imagine there are thousands of basketball fans across the country that miss having the opportunity to watch their NBL teams. Believe it or not, as bad as things are, there are many who envy what we have.

Just imagine never seeing Luke " the flying giraffe" Schenscher steal the ball at half way and breaking away for an open dunk or Murray the Magpie finally hitting a backward facing half court shot. Sometimes you just have to hold on to the moments and have faith things will get better.

The Board are feeling the pain just as much as everyone else who love the Sixers. They are carrying a very heavy weight of expectation on their shoulders but find themselves short of resources and support to lift the burden. As mentioned by a previous poster, times are tough and there are not necessarily sustainable solutions available to them.

Is there any chance that Marty and Radford had "poison pills" in their contracts - essentially ensuring that in the even of their sackings , they would recieve the full ballance of their contract OR one full years payout - which ever was the greater.

IMHO this would both make sense of what is happening AND seem a resonable clause back at the start of negotiations 3 years ago where SOS were trying to entice what seemed like an very very good bet for a forever in Marty to up his youngish family from a well-paid govt sinecure and move to Adelaide, which had just sacked 2 favourite sons as coach in the last 3 seasons ?

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on a lighter note ;)


Decided that I could throw away $100 last night - put $50 on crocs to win 1-10 points ( $220+ pay out) and $50 on crocs to win 10+ ( $350+ pay out).

That way I would be a happy many no matter what.

At least I have now recouped my season ticket cost - but would have far prefered the win.

Nevill started well , Clarke put Petrie on early...
...Helliwell was a good match up on Nevill , but some are fans of Pero ..
In the second , thought Gibson was gonna win it for us and Crocs shot poorly . From there , Ervin picked up his game , Crocs shot better and we got one good player anyways .

if Sydney can't beat Adelaide maybe Shane Heal should go?

Clarke never ran a play to get Darren Ng an open shot so why would he run one for SC?

This Townsville team is so much better than the team that went 0-10. Ervin and Nevill just changed them completely. Getting Holmes back gives them even more depth. Shame their season was shot so early otherwise they could have been a real smokey.

Or are they still a chance? Doubt they'll need to grow the beards this time but having said that they don't have anymore games against Adelaide either.

And while I'm on the topic of Townsville, Where's Mick gone?

DJ could use some tuition from Andrew Gaze and in particular focus on following a shot.

Admittedly my memory isn't necessarily picture perfect but I recall Gaze often following his shot and quite often gaining back possession.

I'd like to see DJ at least attempt to follow some of his jump shots because at his height he has a great opportunity to grab an occasional board.

Marty Clarke:

"What we did in the first half we did not replicate in the second and I think that starts when we become a jump shooting team after half time, the misses allows them transition points. They only had two transitions points at half time and they had nine at three quarter time."

"We threw it inside and it was good for us, we missed some shots and layups. We shot at 29%, that is not going to win you games."

Pero was out there cos he subbed in 4 guards and realised oops we need SOME size. No doubt he is gone for sure now, but you cant blame him for their horrid shooting. The whole tenure has been one big poop. Promised something but just got nothing, new guy has to he a experienced coach at top level.

Time out should have been called with about 3 minutes to go in the third. We looked more lost than usual offensively and the Crocs were up by 4 and suddenly heating up. I remember thinking TIME OUT or the Crocs would probably lead by 10 at three quarter time. If I could see it, an NBL head coach should be able to see it. Crocs led by 11 at three quarter time. Game over. I have never seen a crowd that flat in the last before and I've been going for 22 years. Used to be the crowd would try and lift the team in that situation. Not anymore. Please pull the trigger and put everyone out of their misery...

Also, Ervin is a GUN. That guy can flat out play and has the perfect clutch attitude - very impressed.

Glad we fired CJ then gave our gun import twice the minutes.

No timeouts or plays when needed, Weigh plays max minutes, we blow a lead... blah.

Same old. Hard to care anymore.

If Clarke stays the script remains identical week to week; we're well into year 3 of the same crap and people still defend him (with three different squads).

Crowd looked small.

Do we have a number?

In the post match interview, Gibbo looked really frustrated and pissed off.

He referred to the fact that he doesn't know whats going on, and that the pre-game prep is very good, and during the game they just crumble.

Not sure whether it was a subtle dig at Marty's coaching.

But it re-affirms the point that Marty fails to COACH DURING GAMES and make adjustments in real time.

Marcus,

No Marty didn't do those things directly.

But its obvious that he has caused those problems by implementing systems that don't fit the players ability.

You do know that teams run plays right?

And you know who implements those plays/systems?

Such a stagnated offence

Why can't you give credit where it's due. You're coach may need sacking but we have outplayed you four times. Is your new import a dud? Outmuscled by the Crocs, wasn't a factor at all. Hope for your team, players and the supporters that all comes better for you. I certainly know how it feels.

i actually tipped the sixers to win this too. it was purely based on the fact that the hints going around was that marty would get sacked if he loses these two in a row, and i thought no way in hell would we be that lucky so he will obviously win one this weekend, that being the home game i though. i dont see sydney letting us win.

It was very tempting to start a "Sack Marty" thread at 3 Qtr time, but I thought I should show some respect for the dead.

Sorry......The aircon has not been working??

(for the half court shot)

Can the cheerleader steer clear of Hoops posters this week?

Thank you .

Remember that Daly isn't a rookie player anymore
is in the 10 now , with Christopherson starting would be good . This is really gunna be interesting to watch

Any good bets here Isaac? Or anyone haha only paying 1.43 for the win.

Import to play...it's been confirmed,sixers to win

If Marty was a smart coach he would start Christopherson. The guy has been here training for 2 weeks now and still has not played a game. I'd be thinking if there's anyone pumped and ready to hit the floor running it's gotta be this guy. Let his emotion and enthusiasm out from the tip off and hopefully the rest of the team will feed off his energy. Run the first play for Scott. Imagine the roar of the crowd if the new guy comes out swinging and nails a few early baskets.

Hope they have the air-con on.

Yes game on 1 tonight got the dvd recorder set to copy so i can watch again when i get home from the game

Twenty five bucks ingles , a bit tooo much.

Internet explorer can not open the site nbl.com.au
here , so I don't know if this is a tv game or not.
04jan would usually be a few extra going in there
Heat will keep some away and Kristoferson very handy
Very interesting game .
Weigh's best sixers' game NYE I think , 21points .
We might get this.