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Anonymous
Years ago

36ers first half, second half scoring disparity

And suddenly I can't stand Ballinjerk.

Years ago

Cheerleaders. Of course! It is so obvious when you think about it.
I think it has got to the point where the team is waiting for things to go wrong after half time. Self fulfilling prophecy. The times when they look good, they are playing loose - on instinct. I keep thinking back to when CJ exploded for all those points against Perth. He was getting them on sneaky back door cuts - something he was not supposed to do in Clarkes system. CJ struck me as a guy who knew where to go to score. So, "Go stand in the corner CJ", was a little dumb.

Anonymous
Years ago

I think its a mental thing now and if you watch our D you will see it opens up big time with mainly our 2 bigs having lapses in concentration. It is not just this year but we havent had a player who wants the ball in his hands and makes the shots when required as we had in our glory years so that makes a huge difference as opposition teams know that any margin can be reduced against us.

Years ago

well done VC fan.

SMA
Years ago

Simplifying the system is certainly a key factor.

Marty is cut from the AIS cloth. First as an athlete then as coach. This style with regimented execution limits natural basketball flow. Example may be CJ's exit for Christopherson?

Moulding players to play a style in the AIS environment doesn't translate to getting a team to buy in and execute his scheme.

Years ago

VC Fan - priceless !!

Years ago

Interesting second half fadeouts ,wonder what they do at half time ,talk about the second half or sign autographs on balls or have a ten minute nap and feel more tired.Its teamwork and the way they pass the ball,there are alot of steals against sixers and other teams know the sixers teamwork !!!!!Clarke has same teamwork for years.

Years ago

Isaac, I was going by the posts on the 'toxic arena', given that I don't live in Adelaide.

I think Statman and KingJames are more on the money.

Years ago

I think its a bit more simplistic than that.

The team starts off by executing the game plan prepared for during the week to take advantage of whatever weaknesses the opposition are percieved to have. Then as the game plays out and especially at half time the opposition are able too some adjustments to counter what Adelaide are doing well. Then it just seems that Adelaides offence simply falls in a heap.

I think some of the players have shown a lack of 'basketball IQ' and ability to adjust on the run and this is starting to show with Gibbo in particular getting frustrated at team mates for not being where they should be on court. Sure Offence A may be the plan at the start of the game but when option A stops working and we need to run options B,C and D to get a score having guys who cant adjust to that on the go isnt good enough

In the end though, Its the coaching staff who have put this team on the floor, and if Clarke and Radford have recruited dumb basketballers to run complex offensive sets then thats on their heads.

Years ago

Isaac, some good points. There is something quite unusual going on here.

On road: 33.1 first half: 40.9 second half
At home: 40.1 first half: 34.5 second half

Both on the road and at home, the teams are playing at their coaches end in the first half, so you would not expect a disparity if the coach had an influence.

Each offensive possession generally ends one of two ways. A shot on goal, or a turnover. I would be interested to see the disparity between halves in shots on goal and turnovers (if any), or even rebounds. If the issue was because it was a complex offensive system, then you would expect that as the scoring drops off the turnovers would increase (poorly completed plays) and the shooting % remains the same. If it was an execution issue, then the shooting % would drop and the defensive rebounding rate of the other team could increase.
(Any miss on goal is either going to be collected as a defensive rebound, or an offensive rebound)

Years ago

Good analysis and good thread, Isaac.

I wonder if the answer is the home crowd.

In the first half at home, the players are close to the coaches, as you say.
In the second half, players are far from the coaches and there's more chance of things going wrong (as you say).
The difference is that for home games when things go wrong then their 'supporters' will turn on them, and players are bound to react to it. When they play away, the crowd will be against them throughout.

Based on your stats for home and away, it can't be that Marty's half-time address does more harm than good, because they still play a good second half away.
Also, it can't be that the other coach has worked out the 6ers sytem by then and just needs the half-time address to fill in his players, for the same reason.

 

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