Hoops

Div 1 semi finals

Consider that we are all on the same page here and it reads:

We need to improve our junior competition. We need all clubs to do what is best for
our kids and the game. A strong competition is a successful competition. We want and need all the clubs to have success. Yes we have differing perceptions on what should and shouldn't be done. But we are all passionate about our kids and the game.

I suggest most of us come from a cross section of the district clubs, but, we all see that our club cannot be successful if they are one of a few clubs that are competitive. We cannot compete successfully nationally over time if our competition isnt strong from u18 to u10. Yes we have seen success spikes but few and far between. I would much rather see my kids team finish 10th knowing that on their day they could beat the top team than finish first and beating the second team by 30pts and the bottom team by 100 pts (in div1!!!!!!!)

So how do we turn this passion into a successful junior basketball competition? Collectively and as rate paying basketball citizens, we need to stand up and demand that BA and BSA turn this poor performing system around. Remove the clubs that can't or won't align and get the grass roots of basketball growing.

IMHO

Now I have to work out how to get into the ear BSA.

I think my position is quite clear.

"I believe all players are best off at their closest club and that club should have "first bite" at that player, but obviously if that player is not happy at that club and wants to play at another club or not play basketball, then it is in the best interest of the sport for that player to play elsewhere."

Well der......

Jack,

Do you suggest kids should be forced to quit rather than be allowed to move clubs?

Really, WTF? What are you on? How would you force a kid to quit? "Oh, I'm sorry Mr Carter, we are dropping your son from Div 1 to Div 2 because we have poached a kid from West Adelaide and our club won't let you transfer" "Oh Mr Smith, we need to drop your son to Div 3 because we have got this great girl to play Div 1, but her brother needs to play Div 1 as well for transport reason. Therefore, because Carter is going to Div 2 someone needs to go to Div 3" Is that what you are on about?

Anon 793, check out the player lists in u18 and compare them to when they were u12. There is some movement but the issue is that some clubs have used say 15 players for their div 1/2 over the time and they have years of experience whereas some clubs would have gone through 50 players.

The best way to stop poaching or player loss is to create a culture where kids feel safe, included, are enjoying the sport and learning/developing. The numbers lost to the sport outweigh any poached.

Really, because I like you and you have taken some time to prepare your hook. I would not like kids to drop out of the sport. As I have said, the better teams have one thing in common - stability. When a player stops playing, a club should ask itself why and is there anything we need to change or improve on. Dumb clubs don't.

Once again, have a look at the player lists of any top 4 team and you'll find most of those players have been playing as a group for some time. Look at the bottom teams and you'll see new team lists each season as well as FIFO players who play winter season only.

Clydetheglide is correct, we need 10 strong clubs. There will always be a variation between the top and bottom clubs and teams, but that is expected. I think the biggest issue with clubs is player turnover.

I looked at one group in U18 just recently to see the difference in players from U12 to U18. Surprise, surprise, the top club had basically the same team from U12 meaning that that group had been playing together for up to 15 seasons. Of all the players playing at the club in U12, most were still there 7 years later.

With the bottom teams, there were no players from U12 still playing U18. A pretty sad inditement. While a handful had moved clubs, most had been lost to basketball.

Obviously, a team with core players that has played together for 7 years and has been able to develop under a consistent coaching style will stand a better chance of winning and being stronger than a team looking for the next big thing each year. For a team/club to be super competitive, they need to look long term and seek stability.

I am keen on zones, but not strict zone rules. I believe all players are best off at their closest club and that club should have "first bite" at that player, but obviously if that player is not happy at that club and wants to play at another club or not play basketball, then it is not in the best interest in the sport for that player to play elsewhere.

Anon, don't bother biting. "Really" is a big a troll as Marcus Camby. I think in Really's perfect world Div 1 would be Sturt 1, Sturt 2, Sturt 3, Sturt 4.