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Norwood Easter Classic

Reply #412408

Again, making up your own words.

"Their only success was Reserves boy champion over 10 years ago".

In return I referred to an instance where you were incorrect by stating that the Under 16 boys won a state championship two years ago. Never did I state Norwood were a championship club because of this one isolated victory.

If your numbers are correct, and I'm trusting they are, then in regards to importance to the local competition, I agree with you. South's importance is underrated.

How quickly we get distracted though, this discussion is in regards to the Easter Classic Tournament, its not a my club is better than your club.

Anonymous #412375,

If you think that people aren't going to enter a tournament because an Alias on a website called some people who post on the same forum a few names you must be joking.

If you are going to claim I don't know what I'm talking about atleast explain your side of the argument with a valid response and reasonable argument. My points included reasons as to exactly why it is beneficial to other clubs. Obviously other clubs being involved helps the Norwood basketball club, but the other SA clubs benefit as well.

Anonymous #412379,

Never said Norwood was crying poor, I explained that as Norwood doesn't have a bar/canteen that this was a major fundraiser. Correct me if I'm wrong but South has the Marion stadium and North have Hillcrest. Norwood is a much bigger club, with many more teams and no stadium. Court hire is a huge financial drain. Yes South and North have small canteens but they also don't have to pay the same court hire rates for the same amount of players that Norwood do.

Norwood are mentioned in the same breath as Sturt and Forestville only because of size and the amount of teams in the club. Without a doubt this has been Sturt and Forestville's era of success. For what its worth to you anonymous, Norwood won the 16 div 1 state championship 2 years ago. So your comment "Their only success was Reserves boy champion over 10 years ago" is unfortunately incorrect. I never claimed Norwood to be as successful as Sturt and Forestville, no need to make things up to make your argument look better.

I've sat back, watched this thread unfold, clenched my teeth when uneducated posters write ignorant comments about every club that's not their own and have a childish whinge about things they either have no clue about or just don't understand. I love this site, I love the threads, the trash talk, the banter, the information, the reports, Jack's write-ups and the variety. Unfortunately, with freedom of speech comes ignorance, a lack of education and just plain dickheads.

Norwood runs this tournament as their main fundraiser because of their lack of other sources (a bar/canteen etc).

The Facts.

Norwood have significant teams enter all other tournaments in South Australia.

The Australia Day Weekend Tournament run at Starplex featured predominantly teams from Central, Norwood and then a variety of Country teams. Bar Central, there were more Norwood teams at that tournament than any other SA team. Easy Pass.

The Bearcats tournament and St Clair tournament has had Norwood teams involved for some time now. The number of teams entered by Norwood match the number of teams entered by any other club on average bar West Adelaide for the Bearcats tournament. Pass.

Don't stand there and throw pot shots. Don't for one second say that Norwood don't support the other SA tournaments. They are there every year. Norwood is one of the bigger tournament participants in this state.

Now to the Easter Classic. There is no other SA tournament that brings the kind of Victorian numbers and talent to South Australia. To not take advantage of the timing and opportunity that the Easter Classic provides is absolutely ludicrous. For any SA club serious about State Champs, which should be every Div 1 and 2 team, Easter provides the PERFECT preparation. Why would you not want to participate in a tournament played in identical stadiums, with a nearly identical format, against a combination of local teams and tougher interstate teams? Why not use this as a launching pad for the most important weekend of the year? Why not use it to experiment and see how your team copes with tournament play? Why not test those fringe Div 1 players? Why? I ask why?

For those of you who are knocking hellrants comments about Sturt, I just shake my head. It's filthy and disgusting behind that double blue curtain.

I spoke to a Sturt parent who was a mutual friend of a family close to mine. She had 2 kids at different clubs, one which was at Sturt. She explained that the reason Sturt were not entering teams in Easter was because "We hate Norwood".

Put aside the 'hate' for a second. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for rivalry between clubs, but each club needs the other for basketball to go somewhere in this state. No matter how much everyone dislikes Sturt or Forestville or Norwood, without them, the SA district competition would be in a very depressing condition.

Next Easter, think about you're own clubs preparation for State Champs, think about the opportunity the players have to go against Victorian's at home and think about what is good for basketball in this state. A tournament that brings Victorian teams to Adelaide is nothing but a positive. Be a part of it.

Sorry Whaleoil

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shamona

c'mon Clem,

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And the world, will be a better place
For you and for me and the entire human race

Some very valid points on this thread including Mr rant's, its the delivery.
Norwood have run a very good carnival for 20 years now attracting teams from interstate. It would be great if all SA clubs supported it if able to.

Likewise other SA tournaments should be supported where possible.

It is also understandable that Sturt people are tired as Meske sends 20 teams interstate in January and July. That's what they do.

ABA players have to get money for their programs from somewhere, unfortunately it is from their junior programs or if fortunate from facilities, fact of life.

What I am trying to say is trolls are negative and not good for basketball at all. Can't we all hold hands, sing and be happy.

I for one am glad My kids are not playing in the Easter tournament.
Easter is a celebration of Christ and what the lord gave up for man kind.....

plus easter eggs and plenty of beer