Hoops

Tall Blacks 2013

"Enjoy the missed 3s lastnight?"

yeah thoroughly, well the ones from Perth anyway.

when was Phil Jones a 100% 3 point shooter?

"Reuben Te Rangi will be better then Thomas Abercrombie"

got tonight's lotto result?

"5 years later, still developing!
Most athletic breaker ever but don't sleep on jones
He will still drop 20 on abercrombie.
Penney and jones are shooters.
Abercrombie scores off the ball . When he learns to takeover a game , then he will be a monster"

you are living in 2002, Jones was hot and cold.

"I think in the next couple of years we will see the Tall Blacks rolling out three legit 7 footers in the same squad! Don't think that's happened before!"


Agreed, it is pretty exciting prospect to have that much depth in a position we have historically struggled to fill.
The will all offer different skill sets also, -Pledger has developed his post game and has an ok mid range J if needed,
-Loe can shoot the 3ball at a decent clip,
-Adams is athletic, mobile and strong.

Add the Websters and TeRangi and Fotu and we have some great talent coming through (as does Australia so their job isn't going to be any easier).

Why, Breakers let him go to develop Abercrombie who's come along great.
Abercrombie has a decent outside shot to compliment his athleticism that Jones could only dream of.

Mystro, you're right. Very, very thin at PG, but after watching Braswell treat the ball like it was a hand grenade with the Tigers this year, I'd prefer having Pledger bring it up against pressure.

hahaha another fair call, he was good playing for Lemanis and didn't look for his shot as much

Mystro, you're right. Very, very thin at PG, but after watching Braswell treat the ball like it was a hand grenade with the Tigers this year, I'd prefer having Pledger bring it up against pressure.

"Tait is on the tail end probably, but a whole lot steadier than Braswell and more of a facilitator. I want Penney, Abercrombie, and T.Webster getting shots and opportunities, not Braswell at this point in his career."

Fair and good point.
Just not sure that we have enough solid ball carriers to cope with presses and foul trouble where as we have capable/ok guys to play SF or PF.

Have to agree with Cell and Black Panther regarding Marcel Jones.

His versatility as a 6"8 3/4 man who can score, defend and rebound is what this team needs.


I was frustrated with Nenad's decision to take Frank instead of Jones at the qualifying tournament last year. (Although I think Jones' paperwork was not cleared in time, but I can't remember..anyone?)

We will potentially be starting 3 current Breakers players (Vukona, Abercrombie and Pledger) and 1 ex-Breaker (Penney) who are all familiar with Breakers sets.

So Lemanis, if BA doesn't want you, we would be more than happy to have you as coach (and use Breakers sets) :)

I think Cell is spot on including Marcel Jones. Definitely rates above Te Rangi, Bartlett, or Henry. I've only seen Loe a couple of times and wasn't overwhelmed but he's young. Haven't seen Fotu.

Jackson a real long shot I think. Have to go with Tait and C.Webster at the point. Tait is on the tail end probably, but a whole lot steadier than Braswell and more of a facilitator. I want Penney, Abercrombie, and T.Webster getting shots and opportunities, not Braswell at this point in his career.

"Ced
Penney
Abercrombie
Vukona
Adams

That would be our best starting 5 since the 2002 days"


Our best ever hands down, Pero Cameron was good but not Penney good consistently.

Its a bit sad that NZ and Australia can't play regular games against each other (i.e. Series which aren't just qualifiers). I know both are cash-strapped, especially NZ, but still pretty disappointing.

New Zealand are on the brink of having a 'user-pays' system for their senior team.

I know there has being some talk of BBNZ leasing the Tall Black rights to the Wellington Saints CEO. Hopefully they progress with discussions.

In terms of on the court stuff..Wouldn't expect Adams to play. In fact, I wouldn't want him too. Go get that NBA contract son. Pledger is a handy replacement.

I wonder if Ced has applied for citizenship. NZ is pretty relaxed when it comes to handing out citizenship for those who will represent the country.
If he applied, it could be fastracked pretty easy I would imagine.

Ced
Penney
Abercrombie
Vukona
Adams

That would be our best starting 5 since the 2002 days

"Now, to find some money so they can actually play some games!"


^THIS!

"Australia in 5 years time. Potentially 5 NBA players plus another one off the bench (Baynes)."

sweet now try get them all on the court for a qualifying series.

Leon Henry has been playing well enough to warrant a bench spot. If Fotu isn't available I'd take TeRangi and slide Henry up to PF and let TeRangi come off the bench for Abercrombie. Webster has been playing well enough in the NBL to start at PG but could find himself coming off the bench behind Penney with Braswell starting at PG if naturalized.

C Webster/T Webster
K Penney/E Bartlett
T Abercrombie/L Henry
M Vukona/I Fotu
A Pledger/R Loe

IMO Lindsay Tait is long past his best, let the young guys have a shot.

He has also said that it would be great to play International Basketball against the best in the world.

We should probably worry about the Tallblacks having enough money to Train/Play before we start worrying about if Jackson may come back to the Breakers and naturalize.

Oh my mistake. As you were!

Jackson hasn't said he wants to become a Kiwi..

It would be great if we could have Jackson next to Penney with the Websters coming off the bench. Would give NZ a real shot at Australia having 2 legitimate scoring threats in the backcourt.

I would start Pledger due to his chemistry with the other starters and the fact he has so much more experience than Adams (if Adams will play for NZ at this stage of his Career)