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Ho, please let me know which SEABL program is not now backed, at least in some form, by its Association?

I am not aware of one, stand alone SEABL team, I would however love to know if there is one (Not the AIS either)...

Not confused, just trying to simply make a point about something slightly different than that which you are elaborating on mate, perhaps.

Thanks HO, cheers mate, I comprehend your examples, but I wasn't exactly saying no two are the same, I was implying that all Associations are not the same!

Anyway, your models are of course also generalising, as they should do, kind of my point as well, that we shouldn't generalise too much.

Oh, and the comparison for your three country Vic Associaions, Bendigo, Ballarat and Geelong is an interesting one.

On face value it may appear to readers that they are much the same, that they have simlar models and are funded pretty much the same way as each other, or that is what it appears you are saying if I read your post correctly mate...

Those three are so different:

Ballarat runs it's own canteen, has a fair amount of control of a specific basketball venue and has potential for revenue through links with the Tabaret next to it. Not sure how much council and corporate support they get, but the complex needs upgrading so dollars would be thin.

Bendigo not only runs its own canteen but also has direct revenue through a fully licensed restaraunt, bar, pokies and TAB all encased within a large basketball specific complex supported greatly by local business and council. The place is in great shape and they of course hold WNBL games with TV coverage backed up by the fact they are in the heart land of Victorian country baskeyball.

Geelong must seek funds from their membership, find corporate sponsors and support from local council, but they do not control a venue which is in desperate need of upgrading, they do not run the canteen and have absolutely no funds generated from any form of gambling on site or nearby. Only recently the SEABL and Association arms joined together, but their model is vastly different from the other two.

Meerkat or Market mate??

We can't put a label on all teams doing the same thing here, it is a diverse corporate sector for every Association based SEABL team to try and navigate, just like your local Football Team for example.

Every sporting club must try to gain funds through whatever means they can, but it is what they spend and how they use the money they generate that is the killer and can cause debt issues to be resolved.

Not all clubs have poker machines, a local council that is totally behind them or a venue they control!

Not wise to generalise and place every SEABL program into the same bucket when it comes to how they are financed, that's just being silly IMO...

Sorry to dissappoint Jeff but a longway from the truth.I am just a longtime Knox person who has watched the senior teams in bad times and good times and last year was a very bad time. When you sit and watch week after week and watch player reactions it is not hard to workout something is wrong. When you hear senior players say they just didn't listen to what he was saying at timeouts and they would then go out formulate their own plays becuase his didn't work.That to me just confirmed what I was seeing.You don't go from finals contenders in 2012 to how they performed in 2013 unless something is not working.What was the only major change Shanahan.
If this year he proves me wrong I will quite happily get on here and praise him but considering what he has lost and what he has so far recruited I doubt it will happen.

Looking to see what Frankston do, are they using Long as a import now he has passed the citizinship and now able to be played as a Aussie.

anon nothing to do with affordability as CJ and Lester were both gone even if Knox could afford to pay and that was Shanahan's decision.My belief is he just does not have it to be a senior level coach. Ask players who he has coached
and they will tell you his man management skills are awful.

CJ Fan 10th May in Brisbane will be when it happens.Shanahan may not have to worry because hopefully he will have been given the arse by then.His appointment will go down as one of the worst decison Knox has ever made.

Decided to do some of my own research on pioneers, they have announced signing of brad hill today, he joins Tom daly, Lucas blicavs, matt Sutton and new import Damian Johnson and say more signings in coing days, looks like they are coming together.

What about the east and south conference champs from last year, any news on who they have for 2014?