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Wildcats retain Wagstaff for two years

I think its the starting role that is probably the most important part. He's reached the big-time rather late on in his career, doesn't have time to wait on the bench.

It's taking forever for Perth to resign anyone else. Getting a bit bored with the waiting

"I don't know, I'd like to think that the NBL is capable of giving us the details we should get without having to rely on journalists asking deeper questions."
I think it's safe to assume, given the utter lack of any sort of detail whatsoever, that that's not the case at least for that article.

Other details may come out later, or may be seen as not particularly relevant/interesting to fans, and therefore not worth including.

Hopey it is then.

"Koberulz - the NBL release says a club can nominate a marquee player, it can pay that player whatever it wants, that player's salary can take the club over the salary cap and it pays 25% of the excess above the salary cap as a "marquee player levy"."
It's previously been mentioned that the salary cap for the nine non-marquee players is $850k.

The article on the NBL website says essentially nothing; it'd be silly to assume all the details are there.

@Isaac,

Media article, but I can't for the life of me remember if it was Shayne Hope or Nagy...

"Nathan - my point is that a club like Perth can create a situation where it has the full salary cap available to buy 9 players worth a collective 72 points (undiscounted)."
Except that as Nathan pointed out, that isn't true.

The marquee rule doesn't actually allow them to pay that; remember, the salary cap exemption only applies to marquee wages once they go past $150k, so they still have to fit 9 players into the same $850k they were probably already using.

Marcus, the Hawks were under the points cap last season as well, they could have a further 10pts discount and still would need to be able to pay for them... I'd be more concerned about the discount points that the Breakers are getting... Much better position for them to improve and do some damage...

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We have apparently found a mop in one of the cleaning cupboards so this will cover their loss

So what about U'u and Burdon?

Yeah, the original member email said 8->5, but the article online says 9->6.

Bit odd, but the article is more likely to be right, I guess.

Yeah, I initially thought he was an 8 as well, but re-read that article and then checked his 13/14 pts raiting (a 9), so I assume that all the appeals were the delay in getting the final ratings out in a timely fashion... I'm yet to compare all the ratings from last season to this new one, but aim to have something up on my tracker on "the other forum" in the next day or so, which will clear up some questions maybe...

I used to like it when they listed that they appealed and whether they were successful or not in the comments section... Yet another move by the NBL to have less transparency...

I think the 8 rating is more fair to Wagstaff, despite wanting Perth to have even more points to play with... He could no doubt be a 9 on another team with more responsiblity, but he's playing as an 8 (at least in my opinion) for the Wildcats...

You're actually advocating a team, that has made playoffs the last 28 seasons, had so many GF appearances as well as winning the last one, to actually bend the cap? Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but that's ridiculous... They would have the $$$ technically, but they wouldn't have the cap room... Not by a LONG shot... So many top level players already taking discounts no doubt to stay in probably the best situation in the NBL...

ok, so Wagstaff got re-rated down from a 9 to an 8 which seems fairly reasonable, and the Wildcats get the benefit of 2pt loyalty bonus which again, is fair enough... I don't like seeing them with so many bonus points, especially next season(?) when Redhage gets 2pts off, but it all goes in cycles, most teams wouldn't have a huge block of players starting with the team within 1 or 2 seasons that would get them this much discount, let alone another 10yr player getting a further 2pts off, just sucks that it's the Wildcats ;)

5 years = 2pt
10 years = 4pt

2 seasons, with a player option 3rd season.

Apparently appealed his points rating from 8 down to 7, to which the loyalty discount is applied, so he has been signed as a 5pt player.

Besides that position being overcrowded already, I agree... but I think Perth is at the max, so any more hate would just not be able to register :D

At least my Wildcat "hate" comes from a place of jealousy and respect, even though the bunch of you are all ferals ;)

Also, I think there's only so much hate that one team can garner, so we probably shouldn't sign Oscar lest we engender a riot of some form.

Plus if Oscar Forman leaves the Gong I will eat my virtual hat...

That's the thing about Damo though, one of the things that makes him such a solid commodity is his off court attitude as well and I don't think anyone would be surprised if he showed loyalty to the Cats and took a bit less for the greater good... he's in a great situation and is a constant contender for NBL Championships the last handful of seasons... Combine that with the fantastic resources and a management that is obvious switched on (compared to some other teams, especially) and taking a bit less to keep the band together sounds pretty reasonable...

That being said, I'd be happy for the Kings to do whatever it took to sign him long term, I just don't think it's going to happen.

I'm really curious to see what the difference in offers would be, though, as I'd imagine that there would be some considerable cash on offer to try to steal him away and he'd be mental to not try to set himself up financially (if he can still get a decent situation on a team, not just chase the $$$) as he's turning 30 and is in his prime now... Sign long term with the Cats at a discount now and who knows what the next contract will bring...

Lawl, can't see it happening, however much I would flat-out love to have him making arsey shots for us rather than against us.

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