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Referees - Website

Wow, is this post to be continued?Great reading............hey Lachie, what you've achieved and what you will contiue to achieve is an absolute credit to ya kid!! Keep it up.

anon - in the most, yes.

except for
(#39679) - critiscm without reason, sarcasm, negativity
(#39702) - sarcasm and more negativity, without basis.
(#39725) - nothing post.
(#39748) - personal attack (did use some facts)
(#39762) - admits his real problem is with one person at management.
(#39804) - changed beef, but some valid points.
(#39813) - personal attack
(#39818) - nothing post
(#39826) - sarcasm and took his right foot out of his mouth only to cram in his left!

im sorry, but all i can see negativity and personal agenda's getting in the way of what i had intended would be a positive thread. I should wish as much.

no, "sorry doc, i shouldn't have said your too old to play". or "sorry doc, maybe you can play some."

Although i didn't really expect it, all you have been is rude, narrow-minded, negative and presumptuous.

Dont try to remove your foot from your mouth just to swap feet. I haven't been a top referee, but i have told Neil (UIC) and Matt (UIC) that i will help out whenever i can.

Its weird how some people can take what was intened to be a 'pat-on-the-back" for a pro-active move and turn it into a dirt slinging match.

now you've gone and done it. I really dont like people who gloat about themselves on this forum, but when you talk so much rubbish...

I played Juniors Div 1, went to Albury as a Junior, started at Albury as a top age 18. I have been to the USA twice to play ball, the second time as the captain of the senior team. I played reserves for two years while in 20's, i dont play reserves anymore because i have other things in my life and can't commit to trainings. Hence why i am div4 player/coach and still probably half your age.

back to the topic, If there was a perfect solution BASA would implement that, unitl you can provide one, they have to try different things, some will work, some wont. I support them trying things, whatever they are. It is better than sitting on your hands hoping. If you have a better way to fix a problem, BASA, i am sure would gladly hear it.

I can't break it down for you any more, you haven't followed my logic at all yet.

i'm not going to lower to your levels on this forum to rebut that rubbish, you've got my e-mail, Take the initiative .

phantom -

"My main beef is with this KNOB Neil that is more concerend with a stupid web site than improving jnr ref's on a fri nite and sat morn"

I can't explain it any more clearly to you, seems you have your mind made up anyway, what does this sort of close-mindedness do for our game?

If you have individual issus (re:matt friday night), address them individually instead of trying to take down ref's as a group.

anon - did have availablity forms, haven't for a little while, weren't effective. hopefully now, with it publically availabile it will be more effecitive.

JPS - i think you may be making gross generalisations. have a look at Wayville's Neil or Matt, or Pasadena's Matt. I see them regularly and they all are uite involved in junior umpries development.

what is LMAO??

damn you are having a slow day!

Website has a monthly availabilty form. Monthly avaiablilty means more time for UICs to orgainse rosters. More time for rosters means having to do less games themselves. Less games themselves means being able (whether they take it upon themselves or not) to watch the junior and other umpires. Being able to watch and monitor other umpires means they can give more feedback. More feedback means more efficient umpire improvement.

did you follow that?

Phantom

and Matt @ Pasadena.

Okay, i'll try to slow it down a bit for you.

Situation at the moment. UIC's ring their umpires during the week to organise them for friday and saturday games etc. = weeks notice

The availability form (if you took the time to have a look before shooting your mouth off) is a monthly form. = 4 weeks notice.

I appreciate some people dont know their work roster a month in advance or whatever, but at least the UIC's can get some refs organised weeks (plural) in advance, and a guage on how many people they have.

Its not perfect, but its a start, and its better! Get it now?

phantom -

there are many problems with ref's no one is denying that. Here is how the website is going to help those kids on a friday and saturday night.

-Website has availability form
-UIC's get more time to do rosters
-UIC's can identify if more ref's are required.
-This means UIC's will (less often) need to umpire.
-As UIC's are umpiring less, they are watching more.
-UIC's are able to provide feedback to all their refs, rather than having to fill gaps in rosters as is the status quo.
-These refs get more feedback, and are able to imporve quicker and more effieciently.

do you get it now?

phantom - you have to walk before you can run.

The problem of refs not being available is being addressed directly through the 'availabilty form' which is now accessed off the site.

All up-coming referee courses are now publicised online, adressing the issue of poor communication which is evident across all basketball levels (IMO).

This website will allow for awards or accolades acheived by referees to be shown the public, giving the refs something to assire to.

I think it is a great step in the right direction!

You don't think a man who had his home burned down by white supremacists should be allowed to speak up about black lives?