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Rumour that Knox Raiders may cease to exist

Good work Isaac - there's no place for defamation in a setting where there can be no response straight up. Nice job - hopefully others take notice.

It seems to me here that behind the scenes of a lot of "successful" semi professional programs there are a lot of issues hidden behind the game night curtain..

I do wonder if it's worth the SEABL / BigV / BA running some sort of night outlining the fact that maintaining your own backyard is better than spending yourself into trouble for a $20 piece of fabric that hangs in the rafters and places your financials in trouble and then there's the staff cost issues as well.

As a basketball lover I cant help be slightly worried about the future of certain aspects of the sport - and working in the club support area for a job, I know for a fact that those fears are well and truly justified. Lets get back to pathways for our own kids instead of a team of high profile recruits.

I also hate to put teams or organisations above others but perhaps the Ballarat Basketball model (from what I've seen) should be used as an example for other organisations? Strong people in charge with a no-nonsense approach and a view for the future and kids instead of just the "now" and recruits / over staffing.

Oh and too, does this constant trashing really help anything? The fact is that associations consist of volunteers wanting to better the sport, paid administrators (some with a clue and some not) and then those that think they can run an empire when they obviously cant. They're the three types in sport and it's a fact. So instead of stating the obvious and trashing individuals can we perhaps have some people take a step back?

The so called State Basketball Centre, should never have been built it's a white elephant. Certainly not enough courts or seating yo warrant that title.
Their was a perfectly good venue at dandenong that was already up and running with sufficient courts, yes it's also the state volleyball centre but that wouldn't stop them from running basketball Vic from their either and pooling recourses/sharing costs as the state government is not generous with grants that's for sure.
Then perhaps this mess would not have grown into the huge financial disaster it now is for Knox basketball, at the end of the day no one wants to see any basketball association go under

I agree with VP. I hope there is no financial implications on BV.

VP......the only sensible post in the whole thread

Just the response I expected Anon#494202. No respect for the people that kept the club running successfully for 20+ years. Hope you enjoyed your club (kids) all expenses paid trip to Spain. Good luck to all at "little Knox".

seriously - go and read the judges decision. he said at paragraph 58 "KBI established Sixth Man. KBI wanted carroll to be a director of Sixth Man because he was the CEO of KBI. later the Board thought there should be another director. Whilst there was some consideration to making Crotty a director, ultimtaley Gordon became an equal shareholder and director with Carroll."

What is it that you people don't understand. The only person who gave any evidence in that case that suggested Six man was not KBI's company was Noordzy and he had nothing to do with its creation!!! In fact the Judge also said has had doubts about the reliability of Norrdzy's evidence and preferred carroll to Noordzy on any contested point. He found that "the attacks upon carroll were largely unjustified" and that Carroll was "an honest and reliable witness".

Seriously - have a read of it to understand the scale of the disaster that the current board has created.

Can someone please post the transcripts link so we can all get some facts rather than all the mud slinging that is happening.
This has been a great club for many years and key people need to be put in place to rebuild Knox to where it should be. If it means no senior teams for a year or two, so be it.
In saying that, our kids need a pathway to aspire to and that is my biggest concern.

Keep dreaming a----ole we will come back bigger and better- go Raiders.

All this amuses me with people talking about due diligence and such. Many corporations and others have been duped by con men. Do you all neglect to remember Skase, Bond, Pyramid Building Society and many others , all of whom conned millions from banks and investors. To say that a voluntary board should have been able to see through this, is laughable. The banks who gave money to the above people had a multitude of so called financial experts and lawyers at their disposal and it did not help them. Was Wayne Carroll going to make money from the "Microsoft deal",probably. Usually any person who brokers a deal gets a commission. This applies to Financial Advisers, Loan Brokers Insurance Agents and the like. The whole saga reeks of a very good con man who it would appear by all reports is very good at ripping people off. Should have KBI gone after Wayne, possibly, but they should have obtained expert legal advice first. But all this is now in the past, so people instead of blaming every one and the dog,get on with it and put your heads down, ar*se up and help them get out of the sh*t.
A good con man will, 99% of the time get to his target and relieve them of their money or goods. You read about it every day so lets stop the blame game.

What sort of car is Shanahan driving lol