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Boti: Crocs might be in their last season

Maybe Boti's motive is to create some negative publicity towards the crocs to deflect attention from the 36'ers financial woes

I always liked the Suns/Crocs they have always been my 2nd favourite team after the 36ers and as much as I enjoy watching them play this season I think it would be better for the NBL if they were let go and replaced by a Brisbane based team.

Shouldn't it be up to the clubs to charge the prices they deem suitable? Why should the NBL have any say in the price of tickets for Townsville?

MACDUB.

To elaborate, i have been to many Ulm games having lived in the area for a year. Before this new stadium they played at the university, cheap stadium simliar to dandy, kilsyth and other SEABL stadiums.

Ulm ran a sustainable roster, not going after high dollar guys, had cheap beer (3 euros), a massive BBQ set up outside serving brats, burgers and other German food. Is some of the best fun I've had watching basketball.

If only the league would go back to playing community basketball, cheap beer, reasonable ticket prices some of these smaller clubs may be able to survive. Your Perth's, Melbourne's can run bigger budgets.

"Townsville can support a team"

The crowds would suggest otherwise.

Listen I would hate to see TVL go, but what's the point of the league pumping dollars into a venture that isn't going to be long-term and sustainable.

e.g. the league can put dollars into the Crocs, but once that $ stops/decreases, the Crocs will be back in the same dire situation they are in now.

Putting dollars into a venture without addressing the real reasons why the venture isn't successful is entrepreneurial idiocracy.

TVL fans need to take some responsibility IMO.

Their fans can't just sit back and cry for help when only 2k (maybe less?) are turning up per game at the RSL.

The problem with the Crocs is that they're not filling up the RSL. It would be sad if they did fold

Nothing wrong with having stadiums of 3k people.

There's a few stadiums in the French Pro A and German BBL that have 3-4k.

I have had the priviledge of going to a Ratiopharm (German BBL) game at their 3k capacity stadium.

It was full to the brink..the intensity, atmosphere and crowd involvement was unbelievable. It was wicked!

It would be a dream of mine for the NBL to have 3-4k boutique and beautiful stadiums and have them absolutely full to the brink with an electric atmosphere.

http://basketball.eurobasket.com/team/Germany/Ratiopharm_Ulm/127

The Ratiopharm stadium has an aesthetic design.

Strange I spoke to someone only the other day who has a close association with Cairns and that's what I was told. True I don't know, but I posted it for what it's worth.
I called someone a dickhead because they simply mis quoted me putting words into my mouth that I never said.
The Brisbane bid isn't funded by anyone other than at this stage the NBL. That right now is a fact.
Cowan was always happy to continue on despite their losses but refused to work under the NBL's flawed model and that was the reason they pulled out. Tassie are still expected to be allowed in.
Government assistance will determine whether that goes ahead or not.

Bwahahahaha another stupid comment about Cairns being in financial trouble again. FFS - The ONLY TEAM TO POST A OPERATING PROFIT 4 YEARS IN A ROW. Its public information as a publicly listed non-profit organisation.

Coming from someone who calls people dickhead on a forum its not that surprising.

There are forces in Townsville that want to take over and move it back to the TEC. With mining dropping off, da ville just isn't flush with cash anymore and locals are sick of high rates etc bailing out sports teams/stadiums they can't fill. Crocs being around maybe a forgone conclusion - but dont discount the license moving to Mackay/Rocky who have stronger QBL/sponsorhip supporter bases ie. NQ Cowboys major sponsors are out of Mackay/Rocky/Cairns not Townsville.

So with 2200 people at the Gong recently and the black curtains up how does that sit with you in a venue that can hold 5,673 people?
Rest assured if it was official at 2200
there were far less there.

Hey dickhead anonymous I have never said there will be no NBL season next year. Please don't mis quote me. Right now the NBL is on the tipping point. Crocs close to folding, some would say that the Hawks are close to folding despite having a new rich owner.
Latest rumour is Cairns are on the edge too.
The NBL keep talking about expansion and all they have done is allow another team in with no credentials and those that are applying have done SFA.
The boss of the NBL has quit. Surely a numpty like you can figure that out. How's Adelaide going too? Lots of money spent there too and SFA delivered in terms of wins. I stand by what I say and as the resigning boss of the NBL said TV rights are a long way off.

"Make a local derby, Melbourne Victory vs Melbourne City is huge here."
It works because people support both teams. Nobody would support the Perth Not-The-Wildcats.

"Its obvious the people of perth love there basketball"
Is it? How?

"having 2 teams that play at the same arena like the lakers and clippers would be pretty awesome."
There is less than zero chance a new Perth team would be playing at Perth Arena. They'd be at either HBF Stadium or the WA Basketball Centre.

(Seriously, does anyone know how to do that blockquote thing Isaac does? Why is there no markup guide anywhere?)

Melbourne have never been in the hunt for next season.

So many fans these days seem to be fine with letting a team move on. Just thinking of the media these days I would guess that the event of losing a team would outweigh the leagues expansion. Just thinking of more 'basketcase' headlines and how the league has fallen from the glory days makes me shudder. It turns away casual fans and who knows, maybe even potential broadcasters.

If the league can partially fund the Brisbane team maybe they could send some kind of loan to Townsville?

Everything in the leagues power should be done to keep the Crocs in the league.

Why does everyone think a second Perth team would be anything other than a horrendous failure? Who would bother going to games when you've got the Wildcats here already?

Losing Townsville would be so sad...they defied the odds to show that a regional team could firstly enter the league & then be successful off the court for such a long time.

I dont think Townsville will go. I have nothing to base that statement on.. I just dont think it will come to pass.