Hoops

R17 Sixers v Crocs

I was reflecting on a decision from a few weeks ago to help explain a decision made on the weekend. I was unaware the ability to review out of bounds was in the rules. Thank you Rulz

What precedent would that have set, exactly? Out-of-bounds calls can be reviewed in the final two minutes, at the discretion of the officials. That's been the rule all year.

I suspect the review that occurred during the Hawks v Sixers game a fortnight ago was raised by Joey. The precedent was set then.

seems crocs zone d slowed sixers down...sixers being the worst at three pointers.
(most likely poland will pay dj for playing there before this)

Great game to watch in patches but refereeing was [again] appalling. Missed calls & wrong calls, including out-of-bounds decisions ... and not just the one that was reviewed.

There seems to be a trend for refs [not just in this game] to decide to use their own rules, rather than the rules of the game, with one of the 'newies' being to call on the 'cause' of the ball going out of bounds, rather than who touches it last. [An sometimes I suspect they use a wrong call as a 'make up' for a missed or ignored foul of other violation.] So they don't automatically call the last contact with the ball, they look for who they think caused the ball to go out. Not only is that wrong, the concept comes unstuck when they then revert to the actual rule when someone deliberately fires the ball into an opponent's leg to get the out-of-bounds call ... which they do.

More generally, in yesterday's game, the refs simply weren't up to it. They missed the first three or four, at least, and never caught up. My reading of the situation was that Durant, the only 'home' ref, was actually trying to get somewhere near actually calling the game - someone needed to! - but was very concerned not to be seen to be 'home cooking' and in fact made several wrong calls, in my opinion, to show that he wasn't favouring the home side.

Based on what I am seeing at games and on the box I'd suggest many referees are simply not fit enough &/or well enough prepared mentally to do the job. Fatigue and stress bite hard and they need to be very, if not super, fit and 'turned on' to maintain good decision making under the pressure.

Or maybe they're so concerned about being in the right 'sector' or whatever that the actual game goes out the window. There's a lot to be said for having two good refs who know how to position to monitor the game, work to get into those positions, and are then able to focus on the game.

And from a refereeing [decision-making] perspective the refs need to do a LOT of work on how to 'read' and correctly call what is going on when the big guys go at it inside. If you don't believe me, find a tape of yesterday's game in Adelaide.

@Hot hot hot
Yeah I'm aware that you shouldn't be reviewing after the ball is inbounded, thats what I found so farcical, but thank god they did. I'm wondering why it wasn't just straight up reviewed in the first place. If Durant felt like the call was so obvious that it didn't need a review, then he might be need to be sporting some glasses next time he's in town!

Ref's just need to sharpen up a bit, imagine the game continuing with slow mo replays getting re-ran in the televised broadcast. If the officials need to be breaking the "review rules" in order to get it right, then that needs to continue, or they could just get the blatantly obvious OOB calls right the first time.

@Dazz
He's not starting and his role on the team isn't really clear. Couple times today he was caught in awkward positions, and there were times where Motum made a play which was exactly what DJ was doing last season. Him and Brock play similar to an extent, as compared to DJ being paired with Peach or Schensch last season.

Don't really know his stats for today, but the jumpshots he took were there and last season I would expect them to drop. Inside he tried to force it too much and was looking for calls too often (Nothing stood out he could just never get into a move, and tried drawing fouls when the defense collapsed). One semi open layup he just missed.

A decent game against a lesser defender than Gladness, a handful of points and he should find his groove hopefully. Really needs to be getting solid numbers and starting before the last rounds.

Agree on the general frustration with the refs.

The out of bounds call with 1:14 left in the 4th was ludicrous. The entire Northern End could see that the ball came off of Townsville, but Durant (whom I don't believe had his view of the play hindered) called it Townsville's ball. Literally gobsmacked.

Took someone, I don't know if it was Joey, someone on the bench, commentators, to mention that it could be reviewed for it to be overturned, AND ONLY after the ball had been inbounded. Game in the balance, Townsville go down and score that possession and the game is changed.

"C'mon Durant!!!"

played below par and same with crocs. fouls again get me fired up. some odd ones and some stupid calls which actually hinder a decent game.

Nathan Durant either is blind or is very amateurish at reffing. Both ways! Piss poor effort

He over exaggerates contact ridiculously.

A little bump and his body and arms fly backwards. Happened today when defending the ball and got the call, even though there very little contact.

Offensively, he comes off the screens and as soon as you touch him he contorts his neck and body back as if he has been hit by a bus.

Kobe24, I will find some video footage to prove this.

Absolutely adamant he does this and I am sick of it to be honest.

Solid win, but not liking how stagnant our offence gets in the middle of the 4th, its so predictably frequent. I'm not a coach so I haven't got any fixes, but we seem to just pass it around with no one getting open, and no real urgency for low post action. Either we get bailed out with a lucky shot or Wilson has to try to create. Also not helpful when a screen gets set for the ball handler with 5 on the shot clock, sometimes less. Its alright for the moment, but come finals time (if we make it), we will not be getting away with it.

What happened to our fast running offense today. We only saw five minutes of it to start the third quarter and I said then, Joey has finally addressed the lack of it but it only lasted a few minutes and we went back to scrappy.

Also why did Joey go back to his old habit of making the first sub a triple. Just when we have started well we have to start all over again? In this game that was significant!

Townsville played a great, tough, disruptive game and we were lucky to get up in the end.

This game I think we were the better team and joey might have been out coached.

We should have dominated the boards but didnt match the Crocs physically.

Had that last out of court call not been reversed the result may have been different.

Very glad we got the win as we must close on Perth to avoid starting finals in NZ.

That's a ridiculous comparison. Wilson isn't in the same league as Redhage when it comes to flopping. In fact, I wouldn't say Wilson is a flopper at all. He certainly doesn't have a reputation for it.

84-77 according to Sixer's Facebook. Final score.

Wilson's flopping is absolutely atrocious.

He is on the same page as Redhage IMO.

@hendo8888, get told to head to the club and pick up a few items, find out that wasn't the case, the manager looks for items as the boys train. simples!

**accidently**

You're not your, nice try with not needing to use spellcheck

accidently saw the team train at 10am this morning,. judging by the bullocking work going on, I don't think it will be a nice relaxed game.

I think the Sixers should get this one by a few. Crocs should put up some fight.