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Anonymous

Years ago

Should Big V Div 2 Allow Imports

Are Kiwis counted as imports or locals ?

Asking for a mate

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Shrek

Years ago

Did you know that up till the middle of February that 829 kids changed VJBL Clubs for the 2014/15 season? What is the cost of a clearance?

Huge movement down on the Peninsula. Clubs on the fringes of the VJBL metro area lose a lot of players but do not do well picking up players.

Dandenong had 64 apply to go there, while losing 34. Melbourne broke even 52 in and 52 out.

What has this to do with D2 imports, or clubs in general. You want real pathways for young players wanting to play for their senior teams and youth league teams. Imports can generate terrific community within clubs, but somebody needs to see the big picture. An import around local talent excellent idea.

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Shrek

Years ago

I find this discussion really interesting. Give the young kids some where to play! What happens to so many kids who play VJBL Boys Under 18's, where do they go? If look at the results of past winners of the VJBL Boys Under 18's how many have made it to youth league and how many graduate to their clubs senior teams. I know many of the real quality (top 10% maybe more) 18's go to college. How many clubs really have a pathway for their juniors to stay at the club and feel like they will be the next generation of seniors. Are the senior club and junior club too separated. Many senior club really rely on the junior programs.

If you look at the junior VJBL teams of the D2 Mens, U18 VC Oakleigh first time, Mornington getting better with depth, Coburg made VC also. Are Oakleigh and Coburg going to embrace these young players to keep them there and not lose their more talented players to D1 or higher clubs or football. A few of the other D2 clubs the junior programs are really starting to improve. What is more important for D2 teams, junior development throughout the club or winning a D2 banner? Winning a banner does that equate to more juniors to the club?

The VJBL in coperation with the BigV especially and BasketballVic need to look at how they do things for there needs to be a change of focus and outcomes. The BigV needs to work with the VJBL on future outcomes for basketball in Victoria. There is a need for the VJBL to be divided into four conferences for top tier clubs. One conferance for second tier clubs. Every Club that meets the top tier criteria* will have two teams in each age group, one playing in Vic Champ and one in Champ Reserve. Vic Champ is the best team and generally Champ Reserve bottom age, maybe development but up to the club.
Then you would have what you do now Regional for all club teams 3 and up.

How many kids changed clubs looking to go and play championship. How much work does a smaller club have to go through to hold onto a talented, well coached kid who believes he/she should be playing VC. If you had 40 teams divided into four conferences and the kids knew that every year the Number One Team was to play in Vic Champ would less players move or just same movement but the talent more evenly spread. Have a look at the figures of where VJBL clubs lose players to? Who gains and who has to work hard on a new group of domestic.

Back to the original question, is there a need for imports, maybe or maybe not. Will a D2 team get great benefits from the import? Will the import work closely with the club to develop the juniors at the club? Will he work at the domestic level getting more kids to join the Rep club? Will the juniors come and support the D2 team? Bringing their parents and friends to watch, making a night out or afternoon of it?
I think the bigger question maybe can we keep our talented youngsters playing for one club and this great sport of basketball. No need for open try outs to fill youth league spots, the talent will already be there.

*I have my ideas for the criteria, but another day.....

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Bear

Years ago

There are many things the Big V could do if they wanted to limit or control the level of competition.

The big question is why?

Is there a problem with D2 BigV at the moment.......?

They could limit the number of imports, they could limit court time of an import, they could limit the amount of cash incentive an import is paid to reduce the standard of import...

What do you see as the main issue with D2 @Baller?

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