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Forestville won't release Premier League player

west and Sturt coaches trying to work out what they are doing ?

Great news everyone!

Premier Weatherill has announced this will be turned into a feature film and made by the SA Film Corp.

The role of Jess will be placed by Elsa from Frozen.
Asher Kettie will be brought in for Tracey York with Kat Stewart playing the assistant.
No Australian film is complete without Jack Thompson, so he'll be on the Forestville board. Darth Vader can make a cameo.
The orcs from Lord of the Rings are still playing Sturt people, so they are unavailable, but Paul Fenech and his bogan hunters can step in for Southern supporters.

Unhappy mother.
This site is full oh hate towards forestville. I think if
the situation was reversed against forestville this site would be loving it.

It might be within the rules that Forestville can do this, but my advice is to think long term.

One day they will be a knock on the door at Wayville and.....

"Hello Forestville, my name is Karma, and I am a biatch!"

And the worst thing about this is this could be Jess's final season, what a way to go out.
Way to go Shazza!

Then the Karma gods have seen to Jake Rios not being released to play Premier League from FIBA yet

This tweet sums it up " I think there should be a steroid Olympics. Who wouldn't want to see the athletes jump higher and run faster than they already do?

if Forestville are the only team that's knows the rules well enough to exploit them, then the rest of us are a bunch of amateurs. I think we all need to toughen the F up a little bit, stop sooking about it and if the clubs think a rule needs to be changed, then change it. But I wonder why the rule was put there in the first place?

Re - :This is the only time -
"in my experience "- should have been added - sorry

This type of rule is fairly commonplace , it tests the resolve of the player, usually it works by the club simply showing that they don't have to clear them, so the player or the recruiter backs down.

If they don't - then they get told by the controlling body that the player can go and play - but they have to go and play in a lower grade for 12 months, so then the player and or recruiter backs down.

This is the only time in an "amateur" sport ( that tries to claim its highest local grade is "premier) where the player has actually gone and played in that lower grade , and neither the controlling body or the original club has not acceded to the demonstrated fact that the player is absolutely firm in moving.

I am in no way suggesting that the following is relevant in this case, but I do know of situations interstate where the clearance ( in contravention of hindering by-laws)was pursued all the way by the player, and was eventually granted, basically because the player or their parents, were seeking to remove themselves from situations that would best be described as "un-healthy" .

well, lets just say Forestville are the only club that knows/understands/rorts/and has the arrogance to exploit the rules of the competition to their own benefit, but immediately cry foul, or try to bend the rules to suit themselves when the opportunity presents

I'm confused
Are Forestville the only club in the competition that knows / understands the rules of the competition? Did Southern not know the rules and by laws when they went for Jess?
I think we should get the rules changed every time something like this pops up. In fact, and depending on the club or the phase of the moon, we should have a vote on Hoops to see how the competition should rule upon anything that's outside the rules but morally should be changed. A referendum if you like. If the stating five from Norwood want to go to Woodville, and we the majority agree, then make it so.
I think Jess should be allowed to play, but I feel that there is a lot more to the story than has been disclosed.
Well done Forestville for sticking to your guns. Poor effort Southern for not knowing the rules of the competition but hoping Hoops will get it across the line. Well done to all the other clubs for not saying a thing.
Bring in free agency!

so, in other words, you are saying Forestville also knew of the players intention 5 months ago?

OMG its amateur time people!!! This is not WNBL, this is not WNBA, at the end of the day, it is a piddly little state league with not much respect or interest, gosh wonder why?.

Yes we all agree Forestville are playing by the rules (as they always do!! pfft! bend it, shape it, whichever way you like it) as long as it suits Forestvilles purpose.

BUT in the interest of the sport, for the good of the sport, for the growth of the sport, good grief let an elite player play.

Again this just highlights Forestvilles blatant disrespect for all and sundry and personally IMHO it appears to be getting worse over the last few seasons.

As has been stated many times in previous posts, the bylaw is there, yes we know, but, Forestville have the option available to allow the player ( and in Simons own words, doesn't matter who the player is) to play the game.

Shame we can't ever see Forestville playing the game in the spirit it was intended.

Anon. 521768
Very interesting
Thanks for that.

I agree with being cleared to play I just cannot understand the hatred to Forestville on this site?

A genuine query. I have been part of the forestville club for a bit over a year and a half now and quite enjoy it.
If you swap the team names and Southern become Forestville and of course Forestville becomes Southern is this situation a problem or does it become HAHA sucked in Forestville?

I am seriously considering going out to that game just to heckle the Forestville coach.

No I am almost certain the rule only applies to Southern. But why stop a player from going to her club of choice just because you are hoping she stays.
She doesn't want to play at Forestville, why would you!!!

Ummm, if she doesn't want to play for Forestville and can't play for southern then play for another club. Problem solved.

To be honest a lot of players leave for a number of reasons, one being they have been asked by another club. Others may be that the player is unhappy at the club or doesn't like the coach.
Sometimes it's just opportunity.
In every case there is a reason, hence why it is at the discretion of the club unless the governing body overall it.
You would think given the current situation and who the player is common sense would prevail.
I really don't think this is a case of poaching.
What do you gain to benefit from holding Jess out for a season?
A stalwart of your club, a multi championship player.
Considering you don't have a contract and i'm guessing aren't paying her big bucks, what is the point?
Do you realise you are doing more to tarnish your club than anything else.
I'm actually dumbfounded that the board or President allows for this to go on.

Just an aside : Andrew gaze was never coached in Club Juniors by his dad. Keith Watson coached the tiger juniors back then.

Just another example of what a disgraceful club Forestville are.
For people on here to use the old "it's in the By-Laws" comment is a cop out. Yes it is a By-Law to stop clubs poaching players but when I club legend and a player who is a multiple championship player wants to leave then let her go. She doesn't owe your club anything at all, you owe her the respect to let her go and continue to play the game she loves and which she did so successfully at your club for 10 years.
Don't play the "By-Law" card, that's a load of bullshit.
The only reason she should be not cleared is if she owes money or something.
Other than that you are simply proving to everyone what we already knew, that your club is run by two people who have ego's that is bigger than the club.
I seriously hope you lose more than just one player from this as you have clearly already lost everyone's respect.

Sportsmanship, Respect, Fair Play, unfortunately none of these can be used to describe the club that Forestville has become, this is evidenced by their behaviour in all age groups from U10 to Seniors. It is not uncommon for an U10 Eagles team to absolutely humiliate an opposition team, spectators and coaches alike cheering with great enthusiasm to defeat a team by 100 points, what a great ambassador for girls basketball you are not! From one end of the spectrum to the other, we then have the Borrego debacle. BSA allow this club to exploit every possible loophole to 'win at all costs' and it is time BSA grew some as they have the ability to override ByLaws when and if it suits and they have done so before. There is the phrase "bringing the game into disrepute" and the Eagles should be held accountable for their bad behaviour. We do not have an abundance of female basketball role models and for Forestville to deliberately force out a player of such experience is simply disgusting.

About five seasons ago two girls left Forestville for Woodville, a third wished to also move there but was told by Forestville they would clear her to any other club other than Woodville, she took up the option and moved but was disappointed that after playing all her junior years their she was not cleared to her team of choice.