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koberulz

Years ago

What the NBL can learn from Mark Cuban...

I don't think other teams get a cut of that levy. Unless I'm wrong the levy is like the NBA luxury tax.

Those two sentences contradict each other. The NBA's luxury tax and the NBL's marquee levy are both distributed to non-paying teams.

I'm not scrapping the cap, just adding a bit on. Perth could outspend the other teams but they could only (in my example) spend maximum of 1.5 million.

So...you're just making the cap higher, then. Why are you calling it a marquee rule? And why would you want to do that when teams can't afford the current cap?

My idea basically is to get a lot of money.
That's a fantastic idea, I can't believe nobody else has thought of it yet.

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koberulz

Years ago

Patty mills (lockout) Josh Childress (waived), james ennis (signed but no role) Jordan McRae (signed) were all being paid by their NBA clubs at the time.

Neither Ennis nor McRae were signed. Not sure Mills would've been earning any money either.

I'm talking about drawing players good enough to play NBA but get them to choose the NBL instead.

Why?

Even if the player doesn't suit up he still gets paid. Unless you're saying I'm getting the number of players you can have on your roster wrong in which case I apologise. Swear i read 15 somewhere

I'm not sure if there's a maximum, but it's pretty rare to see teams sign more than ten players given that's all they can suit up and any more would be a waste of cap space. A couple of teams have gone as high as eleven, but that's it.

Why would I scrap the levy? So you can spend more on players without worrying about having to give the league a heap of cash.

So Perth wins the next five championships by outspending everyone else, and the rest of the league goes broke. As opposed to the current system, where higher-quality players can be brought in by the teams that can afford it, and the lower-budget clubs get a boost in exchange for being at a recruitment disadvantage. Get rid of the levy and you defeat the entire point of the cap in the first place.

Which, by the way, not all teams are even spending, so if anything it's too high. Your plan sounds a lot like Ken Cole's: Step one, get millions of dollars.

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koberulz

Years ago

A $1 million dollar salary cap to pay 15 players

Well yeah, if you're going to insist on signing more players than you're legally allowed to suit up, you're going to run out of cap space. The problem isn't the cap, though.

Scrap the 25% levy for marquee signings that push the total spend over a million first of all, then perhaps just have a seperate budget for your marquee signing that isn't included in the regular salary cap.

Why on earth would you do that? Are Perth not doing well enough in your eyes?

Impossible to draw NBA level players unfortunately.

Patty Mills, Jonny Flynn, James Ennis, Jordan McRae, Sam Young, Josh Childress...

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Slopernator

Years ago

Need to take into account the sheer number of NBA games though. I was shocked when there at just how cheap some of the tickets were, I found lower bowl tickets at Wizards games from less than $30USD and slightly more for tickets at Warriors games. Games in smaller markets were even less.

But (to an extent) NBA teams can afford to flog tickets off at relatively low prices, they often have favourable leases with arenas and have 41 opportunities (plus playoffs) to drive revenue from live receipts. NBL teams have less than half the opportunities and overheads (relative to income) are perhaps higher. My understanding is the bulk of cash for each club in the NBA comes from local and national TV deals though, so the ticket issue is not what it is here, where clubs are predominantly reliant on selling the live product to make a buck.

All that being said though, Hoopster has a point regarding the lack of priority many clubs show in their game night product. I don't agree with his comments about the quality on the court but certainly with regards to marketing and ticketing more could be done. Knowing that it really is your only revenue stream should sufficiently motivate clubs to do all they can to pack out venues. The trouble is when clubs that would love to do this are constrained by ensuring they remain in the black and don't lose money on games, as we saw with the Crocs this season and their ticket pricing issues.

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proud

Years ago

What happened to the Dallas Stars, they are successful and worthy of being known as competition aren't they ?

I'd love to see the smaller teams have lower prices and try and sell out their stadiums. That shit about Wollongong going back to the Snakepit is ludicrous as they should be following this cheap tickets = more bums on seats theiry and so should the Crocodiles and even the Bullets when they get up!

The wildcats have nearly 10k members and have jacked up their prices this upcoming season and it will be interesting to see how many they lose over that

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koberulz

Years ago

the Mavs have been strong for quite a few years, basketball is quite big in Texas (pardon the pun). Got to factor that in also.

Do either of those things predate Cuban, though?

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Mystro

Years ago

didn't they fill the Dallas Cowboys stadium with like 120k at the Allstar Weekend for an all-time record a few years back?

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Anonymous

Years ago

Dallas also has a huge population (5-6 mill?), The NBA is the premier basketball league in the world, the Mavs have been strong for quite a few years, basketball is quite big in Texas (pardon the pun). Got to factor that in also.

But your point is valid Mick. Wish the NBL would take a few initiatives from people like Cuban and try to translate that to our league here.

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MACDUB

Years ago

Cuban is a brilliant business man. His work ethic is unrivalled among GM's.

With that being said, theres no league team, super rugby team, AFL team, A-League team in Dallas. (All of which overlap here).

In Dallas the only competition for the sport market is between the Cowboys and Mavericks. However the NFL season is short and they co-exist fine.

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orbit

Years ago

Could have sat on his ass with his almost 3 Billion smoking his 'CUBAN' cigars & done nothing also. Great to see passionate people getting others involved - especially whilst looking after the lesser income earners!

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