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2015 u19s Aus v Italy

535018...... What a contradiction, Greece is bankrupt that's why their are no spectator, yet Greece has financed the whole thing.

Their is NO marketing done to promote these junior events period, that's why no crowd, and FIBA insist on giving it to countries that economically cannot sustain it, in the hopes it will encourage that country to do more for the sport, absolute rubbish. They need to be holding these events in countries that can and do promote it.

And agree with 535049, both these coaches are doing the best they can with what they have, especially Gorris.

Ok, having started this, was not specifically criticising players or coaches. My question is, how much influence does the Head Coach of the seniors have over the junior teams?

I understand the need to develop players and I think there is a need to teach skills and not dampen flair, while still having some offensive rules. This team is using a very structured offence ( for those who think it is just playing one on one), my problem is that it's not one that suits this group of players. For those who think they would like to coach at this level, it must be hard to be appointed then run something that you might not believe in...an offence that works for adults with dominant bigs and consistent outside shooters might be fine for the Boomers, but how many if this group will realistically be Boomers?

Another question is are these game really worth the trouble and expense involved. They are playing in front of no one really, 30 people max. Would it be better if they instead just entered teams in tournaments like the Chinese national team does, do they really get much out of these tournament, apart from the obvious if they win.
Best part of the australian public do not even know these team exist, unlike say college ball were ESPN make it a huge event for every game they televise.

Also in that article - “Our biggest strength is playing with pace at both ends of the court. We are deep, mobile and versatile which lends itself to an up-tempo style of game.”

Obviously a tactic well scouted by our opponents, unfortunately, as they have not allowed us that many transition baskets thus far. I believe we have gone out with an up-tempo game in our psychie but other teams knowing this will always play someone back to slow you down, knowing the plan is to attack.

The other thing I have noticed a bit is that we attack the rim given a chance to do so, but we don't hurt that defender with a short dish pass or a floater over the top. We have tried, but it almost looks like our second or third thought, it isn't instinctive.

You need to have that style of play as an instict and build it into the team's phylosophy to win games using an up-tempo style of play IMHO (The whole team has to buy into it, not what I am observing though)...

"And it is Lamanis that is throwing out years of good offence and structure for this new style of one on one style play It is no secret he hates the structure of old and yet what is the new structure doing for any of our teams We look lost and both Canada and Italy has great structure which saw open scoring.
This team could do so much better with structure Sure we are missing some players, but these boys with defined plays could have stepped up a lot better."

Didn't we recently have another thread discussing Ben Simmons heading to US high school ball where the majority were complaining about too much structure hindering individual player development of Aussie kids.

Maybe Lemanis is looking long term player development rather than a results driven focus. Seeing as the majority of these youth teams fail to transition into the full national team and in fact even into top notch NBL players then who is to say this more unstructured style is not better for the individuals (if there are any)within the team who will be the studs of the future.

Is that not the role of the national coach. To get results for the Boomers.

Ease up!

This team we have taken away is missing potentially 5 of our top 7 guys. Lets rattle them off:
SImmons
Maker
Humphries
Bolden
Adel

If you take that amount of SIZE & TALENT out of any team at this tournament they are a bottom feeder. Thats the reality of this group as well. Simmons & Maker may just be the best two players in the WORLD for this age group.

DJ Vaseljevic is a poor decision maker and is way too inconsistent in game. He makes some great plays yes, but his shot selection is beyond poor.

William McDowell is being found out for his inability to shoot the ball consistently, teams just going under all his ball screens. He effort defensively is so BAD as well, constantly runs into screens, doesn't fight through on balls. Scout breakdowns v Canada hurt us big time. He is a very dynamic open court player but at this next level needs to contribute the little things with a bit higher intensity and desire.

Harry Froling is the guy that should have made this team. He fills so many needs for this group. Rebounding, Scoring, perimeter shooting. Just look at the guys numbers from the last two nationals, they are off the charts. Yes he isn't the most versatile defender but lets be honest, who is in this team? Harry can fill it up in a hurry and would stretch the floor for guys like William McDowell and Tom Wilson to get in the lane and finish.

Get rid of BJ who overseas both men and women up at the Cof E and you might see some changes up there regarding the development of the players and the ability of the coaches to develop them.
The bulk of this team is up at the CofE 24/7 they should all know by now what THEIR role is on the court, and within the team and the coach SHOULD know the buttons to press to get the results.
But in saying that they certainly didn't get flogged in either game, and only one team can win.
Put some of those who chose not to bother making themselves available for this worlds into this team and it would have been a different scenario most likely.

That is the most unaustralian Australian team I have seen in quite a while.

We seem to just gamble the whole time on D and the O side of things is not much better.

Bugger, that was a nice drive to the basket, heartbreaking loss for our boys. Two tough games, we just couldn't quite get it done...

Dajan comes up with another miracle 3 pointer, scores level, maybe overtime??

One minute to go and another tight game for our boys...

Also, watching the livestream, someone should remind the coach that he can be heard...you cant just keep yelling "Jordan, just guard someone"....

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