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Vic Metro National Results

I thought the Vic coach was justified in his complaints (and I am not from Vic). How about some non QLD refs in the semis and the medal games. In the semis and medal games I saw the 50:50 calls all went Qld way. Makes sense when you see where those refs were from! I feel for the no Qld teams. coaches and families who put in so much time, effort and money, just to have their medals stripped away by biased reffing. Why not just assign ref's that are not from one of the States playing in that game - then there can be no question of bias.

Wow 7431 that is an outlandish suggestion!! I thought the forum was about asking questions - you know FREE speech!
What are the logistical problems? We travel all over the state on Friday nights
What are the coaches names and phone numbers so we can take up your suggestion and ring them!

Yeah 7425 I agree with your comments they make a lot of sense. When you coached the state team how many players were locks at the end of the first training session?

Agree nothing at all wrong with selections. 6'8"-6'10" kids that can play don't grow on trees.

Generally a group discussion/decision between all coaches and selector. Usually the Head Coach has the ultimate say.

Does the coach get to pick their team or can the selectors overide on some selections?

^^ Disagree

Quantity with Quality athletes is far superior.

Agree with poster stating that we may not qualify for worlds should we limit training times, within reason of course. Practice makes perfect. We would be far from competitive with other nations that are currently putting the hours in. We're talking about kids hoping to be elite athletes in the long run!!It takes hard work and plenty of it!!

All the anonymous posters would like to know who you are 7203 as you are posting as anonymous!!!
Yes they are only kids but guess what - they are only playing against kids!! Tell us how many years a coach should get? Why didn't the boys have any height and what was the excuse last year? I think Vic Metro have a big advantage over all the other teams - just go back and check the winners from previous seasons - if the coach can't get it done in 2 years it's time to give another coach a go!!

Anon 729 - So the Vic boys had no height?? Why not??
Have we got no height in the VJBL or did the coach decide to go small - sounds very strange?
As for eating our own - I think we have a lot of good coaches applying and in the case of the girls. Coach has had 2 years and people are saying he cant get it done at this level. Not sure of the boys?

#796 Yes, all those games could have gone either way. Which is exactly why you shouldn't have a ref from one of those States reffing that game. Basketball Australia really needs to look at this.
Independence means being, and being seen to be, independent. How can you be seen to be independent when you are from one of the States playing in that semi/medal game. Surely there are enough refs there to ensure that the ref's are from different States than the players.

No i would say the SA boys have stayed about the same. The highest they've finished in the last 5 years is 5th and the lowest 11th so 9th this year is probably around the mark.

I see a few references to the "best point guard in under 16s".

IMO he plays for NSW Country.

The great thing about the top four teams for the boys (sorry, don't know about the girls) was that both semis and both medal games could have gone either way - what a great few games they were!

'The simple fact is spreading a finite amount of talent across 20 teams instead of 12 will diminish the overall standard of the competition and reduce the intensity and competitiveness of every game.'

And, no I don't agree with this comment as your supporting argument because it matters not what you call VC Reserve, the fact is that the top tier of competition in the VJBL will be what it is no matter what you call it.

Some years they are just stronger and deeper in talent, that is not decided by how many teams there are, which Divisions we create or who or how many coaches we have!

It is decided by how many of the elite level, big size kids decide to play or are available in any particular year...

Some years are just stronger than others IMO.

'Reduce VC back to 12 teams, and make VC reserve Metro 1.
It will force the best talent to migrate to the stronger clubs and better programs with better coaches.'

Anon^ I am wondering where you have come to this conclusion from? On what basis of fact do you have to support this arguement?

Some interesting posts? I played for Vic Metro when I was a lad and I am now coaching in the VJBL. We have a massive advantage over the other states with the pressure that our VC teams and even our VC reserve teams get every Friday night. I don't know if the selectors picked the best team or not? But I do know that we haven't got it done for the last 2 years. I think it's time to make some changes - think coaches and selectors?????

I dream of the day that WA stinks it up with a medal.

Sorry, my bad. So Vic M finish with a silver and bronze and the Nationals is a failure?? How about we just congratulate all involved for their efforts instead of calling for heads to roll.

Is "failure at Nationals" a bit harsh? Vic Metro boys silver, Vic Metro girls a couple of points from bronze which was won by Vic Country. These tournaments all come down to just a couple of plays that can make the difference. Everyone seems to forget they are 14-15 y.o. kids. Also maybe, just maybe the other states are starting to develop players that can match the Vic's. Ultimately this is a much better situation for Australian basketball in the future. Congrats to Qld.