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Anonymous

Years ago

Bill Woods article on Larry Kestleman

GWB - yours is just about the best post I have read on the forum. You remind me a bit of Andrew Bolt - you have done your research and given it to a lot of MORONS on this thread - WELL DONE.

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Wookiee

Years ago

Ah right, it was that one game membership bollocks that I was thinking of... Really, I haven't seen such a blatant attempt at fudging membership numbers ever...

there has to come a point where the NBL needs to be self sustaining and club driven

We've been trying that and things got worse, not better... Granted, they were stuck with a couple of leftover BA contracts, but still, I never saw anything that gave me any confidence that they were making things better... I agree with this in principle, and hope that we get there at some point, but the league needed a shot in the arm, and I think the LK route was the best chance of getting that...

while the league bounces from one entrepreneur to another - fans simply just have to endure one rich dudes playground after another

Either you're getting ahead of yourself or confusing that with clubs, as I'm pretty sure that having the one league owner in charge is the first time that has happened for the NBL?

I'm not a fan of what he did to the Tigers, even while not being a melbourne basketball fan, but the truth is, the league was going downhill fast and we needed something to change... If LK can put his money where his mouth is, great... if not, it's probably bought us a couple more seasons that we might have had without him...

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Anonymous

Years ago

As much as I would love to see LK's plan succeed and the NBL grow to be a commercial success, and I do believe he has the ability to do this, I also like what jodiechrist has written, and do agree with a lot from that post, particularly with the Tigers.

Definitely agree with the whole membership numbers thing. I think its a load of crap when clubs spruik their numbers like United did when so many are free tickets, or one-game memberships. That surely should not count as a 'membership'. Its a casual fan with a free ticket is what it is.

Still, for now I'm on LK's side and look forward to seeing what he can do. The NBL needs to get out of this bush league mentality and into a commercial success that the mainstream can follow. And to do that, you need a few $$$ to prop it up. Which for the next 3 years, it has.

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Wookiee

Years ago

"Holy shit, I've never seen a point missed by so much!"
Hows about you explain instead of bitching then? I'm happy to be proven stupid, it happens all the time (not so much by anons here, but you never know) but I can't seen how Blanchfield moving for the money and possibly winning more games is a huge conspiracy...

@Cram - All very decent points and I'm with you on the fudging of numbers re: memberships. I think all teams but Perth would be drastically reduced if they didn't count partial season memberships as well, but didn't United have some sort of student membership or something that was basically free? Probably exaggerating due to not remembering it clearly, but I remember thinking at one point last season that something would have really inflated the numbers drastically...

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Wookiee

Years ago

I'll preface this with saying that I'm a Kings fan, so definitely no love for the Unitards, but how is LK responsible for United signing Blanchfield? They put a gun to his head and forced him?

Also, there's no real evidence that they talked to Conklin before the FA period was open, and even if they did, that crap extended on for so long, I don't blame players or teams for getting a head start, I seriously doubt they would have been the only ones... How long was Wortho to Cairns being talked about as a locked in deal?

It's a giant self interest, even if he signs over his controlling stake in United or whatever he had to do, as really, that doesn't mean much I wouldn't think, as most of us would suspect, but yes, the fact that he's putting a huge chunk of cash into the league with the purpose of building it up DOES seem to give him a free pass with most fans, as it's been god only knows how long since we've had that sort of focus and drive to push the league... The last board did their best to keep it afloat after the BA mess, and I was more than willing to give them a chance at the start, but they did nothing... In-fighting, broken promises, and pretty much a huge mess was not all that reassuring, can anyone blame fans for being excited to get someone in charge with money who is willing to spend it and actually seems like he has some push to get things done?

Until HE starts to not deliver, then I think he has the floor...

How does being a displaced fan who doesn't want to see the man who destroyed his team also work his "magic" on the rest of the league he's been following for 25 years make someone a troll?

it doesn't make you a troll, but you have to admit that it's pretty clear that you're biased against him, and I personally don't blame you, but that doesn't mean that he will be the downfall of the NBL... Tigers fans aside, is what he did to the Melbourne team an improvement on any actual numbers? Tiggers were barely filling the netball courts at one stage before he took over, weren't they?

As for buying a championship, didn't they try to do that last season and how did that work out for them? Just because he's in charge of the league doesn't mean anything in regards to what the Unitards are spending and recruiting until they obviously go over the cap, but with some decent management and the marquee player rule, I can't see how that can't be managed properly if they DO manage to get Ronnie Brewer (2 drafts back from Childress) as rumoured... If there's more talk about this than there is of how the Hawks are managing to splash all this cash around for a top level coach and players weeks after coming out of VA, then there's something wrong...

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Train

Years ago

While there have been various bad examples of rich club owners, there are also good examples. Look at what Bendat did with the cats. There's no reason why LK can't apply the same success to the league. Give the guy a chance before you shoot him down.

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jimmy.hoff.email@gmail.com

Years ago

Wait and see people...

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Beantown

Years ago

"I've read plenty about him, seen his type before and, unfortunately see his vanity cars at work every day."

Cram must be Larry's valet and he's just pissed that he didn't get a decent tip!

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orbit

Years ago

I thought Bill Woods would have talked more about the mans vision. So sick of hearing 'grass roots' & 'tv deals'. Give this guy a go IMO.

He's not just a negative F&^% Wit on a blog site like half of u lot!!

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