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Hawks to announce Kirk Penney signing Monday?

Wow, this got real esoterical right quick.

The law is not the bastion of what is ethical or appropriate. Something can be totally legal and yet morally bankrupt. I don't know the whole story, but there are elements of this that stink.

Maybe parts of it were valid and necessary restructuring, but most of that can occur without the VA. It seems more an attempt to get debt forgiveness in relation to pre-Spenceley debts which, if I recall correctly, had been guaranteed (at least in the loose sense) to be paid as part of the purchase.

Paul, it might be a great business decision that the suits can laugh about with their mates down at the club, but it reeks of very sharp practice.

It's the technique of autocrats and has no place in a genuinely democratic country.

I just hope that all this spending on elite players doesn't follow suit on last years financial problems. Would be a massive disaster if they went into VA again this year. Hawks fan need to show up in the masses and support the this quality team.

Townsville seem to be a little more sensible with their spending so far.

WOW

My biggest concern with this roster was rebounding as they have been notoriously dismal under Gordie in that category, Bevo's teams crash the boards as a team so this team could win a lot but in their losses you'd imagine it would be boards and not ball handling, shooting or defence that's the undoing of this team of champions.

For what it's worth I think Lisch is a bloody good defender, I remember him staying on Deleon all game and kept him to like 5 points or something... I think that was against the Hawks too.

I'd love to read that Spencely has paid his players past and present what they are owed

Obviously a Hawks fan then, Anon, as there's legally and then there's ethically, and then there's gloating about things on social media when he's clearly done wrong by a LOT of people, and with all this money that he COULD have paid them, is now splashing around on top quality coaches and players (of whom are in no way at any fault), it's just incredibly classless on his behalf...

"Mystro.

It's the lure of Bevo. Players want to play for him."

You are talking about Australians, we are talking about an import spot & most Americans with no previous playing experience in Australia wouldn't know him from a bar of soap.

"If reports are true and kp is signed and bevo gets that import 4 who can flat out play as he has stated he wants Illawarra Hawks could be the team to beat"

how can they afford an import that can flat out on top of Ogilvy, Lisch & Penney, especially Lisch & Penney who were lured out of Europe?

"I will be interested to see what Penney brings defensively."

and the other 4.
Lisch wasn't exactly a lockdown defender at Perth and Oscar Foreman struggles on the block defensively with most PF's. Rhys Martin & A.J Ogilvy aren't terrible defenders but aren't going to make the all defensive team anytime soon either.

Another great signing for the league. Little bit gutted it isn't in a Breakers jersey but also glad he didn't come here at the expense of someone in their prime like Corey Webster or Tom Abercrombie.

The Hawks must have found some cash in an old suit pocket as I can't see him coming cheap especially in NBL terms and then add in Lisch & Ogilvy and there is no way they aren't spending at least the whole salary cap.

R.Martin
K.Lisch
K.Penney
O.Foreman
A.J Ogilvy

Nice starting 5 but not sure who is going to stop anyone on another team from scoring?

Lisch and Penney play similar games so not sure how they would co-exist on court together.
They have both historically taken the bulk of their teams shots so not sure where Foreman & Ogilvy will get their touches from offensively either.

*slow whistle* nice get... Like everyone else, I'm amazed to see Penney back in the NBL in anything other than a Breakers singlet...

Those improvements have been huge, really... Hopefully the increased number of wins for the players who stuck around will make up for those couple of months they weren't being paid...

Martin [5] / Demos [0?]
Lisch [10] / White [2]
Penney [9] / Coenraad [5]
Forman [5] / ??? []
Ogilvy [9] / Davidson [4]
Total = 49

with saving 8pts with loyalty discounts, there is no worry about points cap, but surely they'd have to be using some marquee money? I know Demos and White would be cheap, and it all depends if they'll run with one import or not, but that's a pretty nicely stacked first 5... teams are really gonna have to work hard on the perimeter this coming season!

Wow ! A lot to be excited about this year. Both for Hawks and the NBL.

Cats "30 straight" in serious jeopardy this year.

If it is Penney then he can cover the 3 starting and then swing to the 2 so the concern over having only Demos and White as backups has disappeared.

The next question is have they got any cash left to fill the last spot with an import. They only need a backup 4 but in an ideal world that player could also play at 5 in case Davo has his usual injury time. Don't need scoring from the last spot so only needs to play d and rebound.

I'd like to say Rotnei but Hawks already have their guards filled. Surely if Penney was going to be interested in returning, Breakers would of been all over him already.

Is Ryan Broekoff even in the equation ?

Marions the last guy they followed on twitter..

Why not? dare to dream

on twitter that is

Few comments as well in favour of Penney

Shawn Marion...... are you guys even being serious?
Ennis is still with the Heat and as if he would come back to the NBL at this stage in his career.

Please be realistic

Remember Spenceley was ejaculating over his import circus jumping midget last year so I normally wouldn't get too carried away BUT with the other guys buying in this has me very intrigued.

Is the reference about the pit crew a hint that it is some one they have had a running battle with.

In this case it could be Ennis but I think his future at the Heat or the NBA is still up in the air.

Marion would fill a lot of holes and could play the 3 and 4 at NBL level which is just what the Hawks need. He would only be coming here to spend time in Australia as the money would be chump change to him.

Penney I doubt as he would more than likely only return to NZ.

Maybe it's a bit over hyped and the player is Ben Madgen who as far as I know still doesn't have a Euro gig.

Could it be Kirk Penney?

R. Martin
Lisch
Ennis?
Forman
Ogilvy

it would be hilarious if it was Ennis...

Rotnei is well on par with Lisch, if not more important at the time, Ogilvy is the best big man they've had in recent memory, surely? They'd need a pretty schmick 2nd import or superstar Aussie to make it the best, wouldn't they?

What Aussies are overseas that coming back would be a huge get? Any with ties to Bevo?

Hmm... high profile import? A local who was previously a huge target of the Hawks Pit Crew?