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2015/2016 36ers Roster - how good will it be?

Vukona and Wesley would eat poor Mitch alive

If it is Ere, who Starts?

Would you push Creek to the bench or is Ere the scoring power for the second unit?

I may be alone with this, but i actually like the idea of signing Ebi Ere.

He is a know quantity to the NBL also Joey and Gibbo has also played with him in Brisbane so that should help with team chemistry which is something that can bring teams down if you dont get it right even if you have loads of talent.

I predict he will be a decent import, but probably not a MVP candidate but will still be the best import swingman the 36ers have had in year.

I reckon Ere and McNeaill combined can give you around what Ervin and Frye/Carter gave a couple of years ago, and i loved the Ervin/Frye combo, prior to Frye losing his confidence in shooting to a woeful level and his ankle injury wouldnt have helped, i thought he was decent if he could shoot atleast 60% FT's.

Id be concerned if Ere hadnt been playing or had been playing in lower leagues, but when he is putting up good numbers in PR which are as good/better than some current NBL imports including the most recent MVP and imports in the most recent title team, i think thats a good sign that he will have a solid season.

For me if it is Ebi Ere, welcome aboard, id be happy to have you in a 36ers uniform and i think he will prove many wrong and be in the top half of imports in the league, even if he isnt at his past peak form.

He will also bring some athleticism and excitement to the team, will have some big scoring games and has that winning/clutch swagger about him, i look forward to seeing how he goes.

Childress probably wont win the MVP just because of the stupid way the NBL vote on it. He's got plenty of guys on the team to take votes from him...

True, however, it's Puerto Rico not Portugal. He has spent many off-seasons playing in PR. His most recent stats earlier this year – 32 games: 16.0ppg, 4.3rpg, 1.8apg. Still, it will be a similar type of situation to Abney, good NBL career in early days then coming back when much older.

Ebi Ere coming back to NBL in 2015-16 will be like Larry Abney coming back in 2012-13 and struggling big time. Ended up being what forced him to retire.

I could be wrong but I would think that majority of imports that have been announced and are new to the league would have been announced prior to their visas etc. being finalised?

I just wish we knew who the second import was going to be.

Like a lot of people I assumed it was going to be Ere but the delay in announcing it has me unsure.

I'm hoping that Ere was the plan but when new owners came on board they decided to spend a bit more. Most likely wishful thinking but we can dream, right?

If it was Ere I can't understand why they wouldn't have announced it by now...

I did....

Proud, thanks for sharing your thoughts, i love a good educated debate on this stuff. You make many good points, i think your a bit too harsh on some of our guys and too optimistic on some of the others, but hey im probably a bit the other way round with what i have said, so yea it will be interesting to see who is right at the end of the season.

i agree with Paul, with the player swaps like Paul said its overall of similar standard to last year, and us having good continuity and chemistry should also help.

My last years pre-season ladder prediction in my 'its not all doom and gloom for the 36ers thread' was

Perth
Melbourne
36ers
Cairns
Wollongong
New Zealand
Townsville
Sydney

Swap Melbourne with New Zealand and thats fairly close to what happened as far as making the top 4,i got 3 out of the top 4 correct, after many bagged it, especially with the 36ers in 3rd spot. Like this season many said they would be bottom 2.

I think next season will be similar, my predicted top 4 is NZ, Cairns, 36ers, Perth again with Wollongong and Sydney the next best to possibly knock one of those teams out. Both have recruited well and you could argue have better 'big 3s' than some of the other teams, but all of the above teams have better depth, chemistry, continuity imo and there 'big 3s' are close enough any way.

I also think Joey is a top 2 coach in this league, (Bevo is probably the other most proven imo), his results speak for themselves, he has only missed the playoffs once or twice in over a decade of coaching so i back him in.

I think the 36ers could finish anywhere from 3rd to 6th as its a tight league, but i predict we will be top 4 of similar standard to last year overall.

When it comes to the 36ers roster there is nothing there that convinces me personally, I think I'll always underestimate Creek but I think he needs to have a big season for 36ers to stay competitive.

I really like Teys and I think he deserves far more court time but it feels like Joey wants him for team moral moreso than getting clutch minutes. I think Gibbo is overrated and I think Teys could do more for the team if given say 5 minutes of Gibbo's playing time... If that makes Gibbo hungrier and wanting to take the game by the scruff of the neck like those incredible few games early last season then I see it as a win win.

I'm not sure what Walker gives this team as he is a liability with his jump shot and doesn't crash the boards enough.

DJ looked mostly out of sorts last season with Motum around and with the added minutes he'll get this season will need to be the player that came extremely close to league MVP.

I think BJ Anthony is a big loss to this team and I always wonder when Petrie is going to start slowing down (I know Redhage is older) but you look at footballers and cricketers and the end seems to come really fast for them and Petrie is an absolute marvel as he looks like he could retire at any time and then he proves once again he is a winner... Do you think the end is approaching for Peach?

So-so Sobey seems just that

Your import sounds like Johnson from NZ during Cedric's season off but he can shoot... If he is a Rotnei class of shooter then I'll retract my statements but I just can't get excited at this squad

I get excited about Illawarra as I'm biased and I loved Lisch and was highly impressed with Ogilvy and I think he plugs a lot of holes and right now I'm not even thinking of Penney in that team until I see how they use him and how they keep Coenraad happy but I have them 4th

Melbourne I rate slightly ahead but they will be the biggest disappointment this season and will miss the playoffs this year

As for the Kings and I've posted this on here before but I have them finishing top this season on the proviso that Markovic and Cadee bring the absolute best out of one another and truly lead the side but if they rely on Garlepp for rebounds then they will be kidding themselves. I think Sydney just feel like a sexier club, they gave Brandt the starting gig last year and this year Khazzouh is back and unlike when he was last here or Ogilvy's season they have someone legit to bring off the bench at centre and maybe the both on the court could be a difference maker from time to time and lastly we hear all good about Damien Cotter as a coach and now he has his own team so it's time for him to put up or shut up

Proud,


Just interested to know

What makes Hawks, Kings, United better than the 36ers??

i dont really see it, I reckon our Aussie core is as good/better than theres, they just have a few more fresh faces where we have kept the same guys which to me is also an advantage.

With the Hawks

Penney to me is the same as signing Ebi Ere

Lisch is likely better than McNeaill but Gibson is also better than R Martin, so overall is it better??

I still reckon our Aussie core is better than the Aussies on Kings or Melbourne in terms of balance, being well rounded and chemistry, and sure Childress is proven to be great, one of the best we have seen, but will he get through the whole season??? he battled a couple of injuries last year. (remember he is similar age to Ere and Penney too) and most the other imports on Kings or Melbourne are not proven to be NBL studs, Ibekwe will be very useful for Melbourne though.

Im possibly way too optimistic on the 36ers, but just because we havnt added Ogilvy or Kazzouh or Goulding doesnt mean we have had a crap off season or a have a crap team, remember we have DJ and Gibbo who are as good as these guys already.

Just interested to hear some more reasons other than Ebi Ere is old, we havnt added a stud to our roster or why other teams moves are so much better. The reason being is we have a strong core already signed to our team that has been 2nd and 3rd last 2 years. I look at Perth, NZ, Cairns who have been very successful lately who have built around a strong core for years and stayed in contention which to me is what the 36ers are doing, which i like!

I agree NZ and Cairns are likely better than us, but the rest im not as convinced.

I respect what you've done here mate but the common thought is that Sydney, Illawarra, Cairns, Melbourne and New Zealand are better squads than they were 2 seasons ago.

Only Perth and Townsville seem to be going backwards in comparison so maybe your question should be how do Adelaide 36ers from 2 seasons ago and today compare to who is in the league this current season and you can work out how people have said 6th and 7th this season (I think 8th).

We have to remember that 2 seasons ago we didn't have marquee player rules and the league seemed more dire and Adelaide has went through a change of owner(?) but it seems from the outside that the 36ers owners don't see value in spending money to compete with other clubs

how come breakers cant win away?