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Years ago

NBL needs to act on flopping

It really is a tough call for a ref to make in the moment. I think it's too much burden on them. Let them call the obvious ones, in which case maybe we don't need the warning before the tech, but have a post-game system in place to make sure that all incidents are is captured and dealt with consistently.

Years ago

While I hate it when my team gets the charging foul on an obvious flop I just think it is part of the game.
When a ball goes out of court players form both teams try to tel the umpire it didn't come off them. SOmetimes they actually beleive it, sometimes they are just trying to fool the umpire for the benefit of their team.
In most cases - if the defender doesn't fall over the charge won't be called.
Remember Golding backing Sobey down in the low post. Golding was jumping / bumping into Sobey's chest. No call. Eventually the contact "forces" Sobey to fall over - and he gets a flopping warning. Does this mean the defender has to use all his strenght to stand up against a player bumping into him?
What happend when Jawai backs Randle down in the post. If Randle falls over is he a flopper?

Years ago

Above post was me. Had to use a different browser, forgot to log in.

Years ago

I seem to recall a player ejected for 2 flops,
last season, or perhaps the season before,
(maybe goulding in perth)

Years ago

I found it unusual in last night's Croc's v Wildcats game that a player on each team received a flop warning by officials, yet nothing really came of it and I think there were at least another couple of flops in the game that were ignored.

So, the question may be asked, what can actually be done?

Years ago

They no longer make me feel angry , just ho hum bored with their nonsense.

Years ago

I hadn't seen the Wortho squirrel so thanks for including that link. What was the outcome? Should have been an unsportsmanlike foul for playing with the man (or was it for playing with the ball?)

Did anyone else see Wortho deliberately run at another player on offense and knock him backwards but nothing get called? Perhaps the defender should have flopped in order to get the refs' attention.

All this no-calling is turning the game into a farce which depends on the mood of the refs at the expense of the fans and the rules.

Years ago

How many legs the defender has in the air is utterly irrelevant.

Anonymous
Years ago

If umpires called charges without someone needing to flop, then it would stop 90% of the flopping.

Years ago
And how Jawai got away with holding Davidson by the shorts to the extent of de-pantsing him with 3 referees covering a relatively small court is confusing.
Best part of that play was the guy in the crowd yelling at Davidson for flopping.
Years ago

I would try the 'Name & Shame' first, perhaps a FLOP OF THE WEEK award on the Blitz program and some media on it to highlight those really bad ones.

Players and officials are sure to take notice, maybe it will improve from there, if not then look to impose some kind of penalty...

Years ago

@Mick, do you watch much AFL brother...?

Years ago

Video refs during the game would slow the game down even more.

Put them on report during the game with post game reviews and fines. Suspensions for repeat offenders.

Years ago

A lot of Fairfax flopping

Years ago

Cause and effect!

Officials rarely call a charge unless a player falls to the ground, so what is the player to do if he wants the charge actually called?

I am not saying flopping does not go on, yes it does and yes it is problematic in how many times it occurs, what I am saying is that if a player did not fall to the ground we would likely see zero charge calls...

Years ago

Yeah I was amused when Burston received no flop warning given the league in the last few years were keen to stamp it out. Seems its gone backwards again by bad reffing and failure to curtail poor sportsmanship.

Anonymous
Years ago

Bring on the video ref.

Years ago

Ogilvy flopping on Redhage then Redhage immediately returning the favour was brilliant.

Relevant: http://www.fiba.com/news/alby-and-the-cultural-change

 

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