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NBL MVP Voting System

Goulding has been between average and terrible in around half his games.

So in other words it's clear that on those two specific points, using an NBA styled system would be an improvement. So why not improve the system if we can?

Agree with Hoopie, I would say Kickert is United's MVP (but not a contender for league MVP).

I like the idea of whose absence will hurt the most rather than who has the best stats. I always hated Carmelo Antony because he would rather chuck up 30 bricks than pass it, which always left him as points leader.

Personally, I reckon Kickert has been valuable more consistently than CG43.

But why shouldn't a player from a 32-50 team win MVP?

And I've already mentioned in this thread three NBA MVPs who were bad selections (although I accidentally called Kobe Bryant 'Pau Gasol').

Are votes actually secret in the NBL? This thing about Perth only voting for their own players had to come from somewhere, and when they had an awards dinner didn't they do round-by-round counts? That won't tell you which coach gave which votes, but it'd narrow it down.

Gary Ablett would have about 6 Brownlows if his team's record didn't count.

"How many respectable journos do we have?"

Need to include Isaac and Agent Orange in this list.

Goulding, Webster and Holt are no chance whatsoever at MVP.

You don't really know who MVP is until you take that player away.

Hawks are pretty ordinary without Penney, but they'd be equally ordinary without Lisch or Ogilvy.

Childress is far and away the MVP of his team as the Kings are absolutely rubbish without him, but he has obviously not played enough to earn it.

But I've no problem with Randle winning the award, he is the only star on the team, even if Johnson is going ok statistically.

And giving three Brownlow votes to the best player is basically saying he's infinitely better than the players who don't get votes. So?

There's also no rule that you have to allocate five votes to anyone. You could give ten different players one vote each, if you wanted.

Uluc's argument basically boils down to "NBL MVP is unfair because it biases against those with good teammates, we should change it to a system that biases against those with bad teammates."

Not to mention that NBA MVPs have also been won for things like not being Michael Jordan (Charles Barkley), being on a team that traded for Pau Gasol (Pau Gasol), not leaving to go to Miami (Derrick Rose)...

And that's on top of the inherent problem with judging things only after the season is over: players who perform well in the first half of the season get forgotten about. And a guy like Lisch is likely to fly under the radar the entire season anyway.

And frankly, given the number of people upset Kevin Lisch isn't in the MVP conversation, isn't he actually in the MVP conversation?

And if Goulding gets mentioned as an MVP candidate one more bloody time...

I agree that Randle winning would not necessarily be a travesty. He's right in the mix for mine.

But I still don't like the current system.

Having every game on TV finally makes it at least possible to have people other than participating coaches/refs voting.
It would also be cool to have a separate one like along the lines of the AFLPA MVP, which is voted like this:

"The MVP is awarded to the player acknowledged by his peers to have displayed leadership, versatility, ability to play under pressure, skill and courage, respect for all players and overall value to a team.
MVP voting is a two-stage process, beginning with each player voting for the three teammates he considers to have been the most valuable this season.
Then, in the second round of voting, all AFL players vote for their MVP on a 3-2-1 basis from the three nominees of the 17 other clubs."

Would be good to get the players' perspectives IMO.

where would I be able too get some tigers nbl shorts? thanks