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D2.0

Years ago

Steve Adams makes himself unavailable for NZ

Aside from the nonsense of calling it an Oceania Championship, allowing Aus & NZ to play-off with the winner going straight to the Olympics is just weird. Given the current relative strength of the Australian squad vs NZ, it tantamount to gifting us an Olympic birth.

Then the loser gets to go to yet another qualifying tournament???

Here's the thing, for the OcC to not be a complete farce, you need the two teams to competitive.
Either competitively good, in which case the loser should waltz through the also-rans in Manila.
Or competitively bad, in which case allowing the winner automatic entry to the Olympics is absurd.

Instead of inventing nonsense like that, why not do what people have been suggesting for decades and have Aus & NZ play in the Asian tourney?
(Which, in a manner, is what will happen for the next WC.)
That way both teams can earn (or not) a place based on their merits.

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D2.0

Years ago

Seriously, if we just got some little things in order, I am confident we could come close to winning the qualifying tournament.

I must confess that I find the current qualifying process to be somewhat nonsensical.

We've had a so-called (and fundamentally pointless) "Oceania Championship". In which nobody from Oceania actually competed.

Then you have the qualifying tournaments, which are a complete hodge-podge and basically an admission that the current zone process doesn't work.
Ironically, if NZ do make it, they will have a potentially better preparation (playing France, Canada, Turkey, and Philippines) than Australia.

Hopefully the process for the next world championships (in which we will compete as part of Asia) will make more sense and provide us with some interesting games in Aus.
(Although a 32 team world championship is still mind-boggling.)

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MACDUB

Years ago

For me, its not just the fact that he pulled out. It's the reasoning why.

There was issues between BBNZ and Adams' mentor (McFadden) and I can't help but get the sense they remain unresolved and with continued bad blood. It's immature if it is partly the reason.

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Agent Orange

Years ago

haha i dont think stress fractures of the back, broken hand/dislocated elbow and micro fracture surgery are classed as 'convenient'

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Bear

Years ago

Bogut has had his fair share of injuries, that is true, however I seem to recall some skepticism too.

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Agent Orange

Years ago

I thought Bogut only pulled out of Aus camps because of injury? Not lack of patriotism

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Bear

Years ago

Some players just can't find the passion that others can I guess...

Sadly for NZ, as in the past when Bogut made himself unavailable for AUS, it hurts!

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spot up

Years ago

http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/oklahoma-city-thunder-minnesota-timberwolves-clobbers-ref-on-the-head-011316

I think he will regret that moustache.

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MACDUB

Years ago

Very disappointing.

Seriously, if we just got some little things in order, I am confident we could come close to winning the qualifying tournament.

If we got Adams, Jackson became naturalised and Penny came back to play, we could put out:

Jackson
Webster
Penney
Fotu
Adams

Clearly that would be the best starting 5 we've ever produced.

Just so frustrating that to think how good we could be with an upgraded roster.

Adams will be a Sean Marks version 2 in terms of his commitment to the TB's. We will wait wait wait to no avail. My question is that if he can't do it now (whilst he still earns modest bucks by NBA standards and is still a role player), he certainly won't do it next time around when he his average salary is many more millions, he is playing more minutes and reducing workload because of age becomes a factor.

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Mystro

Years ago

Fair enough, they guy has a ton of commitments with OKC and represents NZ very well at all times.
It would be great to see him in a NZ Singlet but I guess now isn't the time.
At least he is in discussions with Henare and basketball NZ and didn't drag the decision out.

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