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Years ago

Perth v Adelaide 5/11

"why do referees always eat their own?"

"So seeing as your a qualified level 1 referee (what a massive achievement I might add"

"Slightly higher than your cute badge. "

"Id be pretty confident it would be running down your leg"

Yes, why do they eat their own?

Anonymous
Years ago

Anon #339

So seeing as your a qualified level 1 referee (what a massive achievement I might add) surely you should be able to produce a better job out on the court compared to the performance by the appointed crew. The boys obviously had a bad game, but 2 of the 3 are level 5 FIBA and the other a level 4. Slightly higher than your cute badge.

Id be pretty confident it would be running down your leg if you were out on that court... why do referees always eat their own?

Anonymous
Years ago

Haha, true!

Years ago

Was expecting the same.

You could tell just from the way Sobey's body moved that there was contact. He couldn't possibly have rotated that way without it.

You also can't possibly argue he initiated it in a universe where Tomlinson got an and-1 for elbowing Rotnei Clarke in the back today.

Anonymous
Years ago

The side-on angle shows there was contact between Sobey and Wagstaff. Some would say Sobey initiated it and didn't deserve a call, but the reality is Wagstaff didn't have legal defensive position and there was contact with the shooter.

For the life of me I don't know why Sobey didn't just cram it on his head though!

Years ago

All teams get dodgy calls. We all know the refs are going to make mistakes. I would just rather see the game play out all the way to the end rather than be finished early due to questionable decisions. If Knight was called for the block as he normally would be, Randle goes to the line for shots, Perth get possession and the fan walks away with "what a game" and the product delivers something we know it can.

Years ago
Sobey missed layup no contact from wagstaff
To be fair, you can see why the ref was fooled; the laws of physics momentarily stopped functioning so Sobey could turn upside-down while still in the air.
Years ago

What's the difference snooch? How does one dodgy call going Adelaides way (that may have resulted in a score) not cancel out the dodgy call that may have cost them a basket later in the game?

Years ago

There were dodgy calls and non-calls against both teams throughout the game. Adelaide didn't get back into the game as a result of the calls going their way.

However, they were denied a chance to potentially win the game because of a dodgy call.

Years ago

Perth fans.

Question their arrogance and any calls against them. you're dead meat.

Years ago

Um if the dodgy calls that went Adelaide's way didn't happen, then the 16 point deficit they had to overcome could have been 20+

Years ago

and the lowest IQ basketball fan and stupidest person on this entire website goes to the anonymous twat above who have never really watched a basketball game in his life. Go play some 2K buddy.

I'm a Perth fan and Adelaide EARNED their way back into the game, terrific. I love how you probably just re-watched the games and tried to find where you thought the refs got them into the game.

Years ago

"Dodgy calls allowed Adelaide back into the game"

So Randle hitting consecutive buckets had nothing to do with that? Should the buckets have not been counted because they're playing Perth in Perth?

No wonder he is an anonymous commenter....

Years ago

Yeah because dodgy calls can somehow be enough to bring a team back from a 16 point deficit at half time, the players playing hard has nothing to do with it. The refs were the ones shooting. Talk about stupidity.

Years ago

Why did the game not deserve to finish with a dodgy call when a number of dodgy calls allowed Adelaide back in to the game?

Years ago

Yeah they missed 2 crucial plays down the stretch while showing pointless replays. Bad stuff-up.

Years ago

bloody Foxtel stuffing up with those replays right when Sixers hit the front

Years ago

A pity that flop warnings are given out all the time, yet when a 120kg Knight goes flopping, you get nothing. The crowd and pressure totally got to the refs. Knight is a shoe in for defender of the year with moves like that.
Would have made the game what it deserved if Randle had gone to line for shots rather than ending it in a dodgy call.

Years ago

That was a cracking game. Luckily I got to watch from right behind the Sixers bench. I can't help but think that atrocious charge call against Randle on Knight which virtually decided the game was a makeup call for the incorrect call earlier when Randle charged into Martin. But as KB said when I spoke to him after the game that was a terrible time in the game for a makeup call!

Really lucky to witness Randle's greatness in one of the most hostile venues in the country. After probably his best move in the 2nd qtr where he put on a dribbling exhibition and finished at the rim beautifully the Cats called a timeout. It was so awesome to see how pumped up Randle was after that move as he came to the bench.

Also just on that play where they reversed the out of bounds against Sobey in the last few minutes of the game that was a clear foul on JJ. That's the problem with going to the video. Refs will often not call fouls on the defensive player but make up for it by still giving possession to the player the ball came off. Problem is they can't do this anymore when you have video review.

Hard to get over that call on Randle. Still leaves such a bitter taste in the mouth when a great game is ruined by such homecooking.

Anonymous
Years ago

That was incredible, must have been deafening inside the stadium. Was a great game all up, full credit to Adelaide for sticking around like they did.

Years ago

I don't disagree re. the booing. Sure it adds to the atmosphere and there's nothing wrong with it.

Just seems strange that Gleeson thought it needed to be brought up post-game insinuating the Adelaide players were doing something untoward and deserved to be booed when there was certainly no obvious nasty incident or anything.

Years ago

As was I. It was very half-hearted booing anyway. It's not like Randle even did anything wrong ... he just got a nice call from the ref. But it adds to the atmosphere in the Arena so it's all good. (in reality Randle seems like the type to be further spurred on by booing so I very much doubt it had any negative effect on him)
One thing I was thinking last night though is that the constant booing just might have been a factor in that "charge" that Knight took.

Either way it was all great theatre.

How costly was that Ferguson reaching foul on Knight just before half time. Instead of the clock likely running out, it ended up gifting the Wildcats 2 free throws and then this...

Years ago

Nothing, from where I was sitting. But home crowds always look for a villain and boo them to put them off their game. Obviously didn't work last night but will work nine times out of ten in Perth. Ervin, Hodge and Homicide were always targeted and they played some shockers in Perth in their careers.

To be honest, every time Randle silenced the boos, the people around me were actually applauding his play.

Years ago

Trevor Gleeson: "It’s the best (home court advantage) in the league, without a question The support... and they had a lot to cheer about with the threes and they had a lot to boo - with the (Adelaide) guys doing what they were doing - I can’t say too much.But I think they were well justified with their judgement with the booing."

So if you can't say too much, why say anything?? smh.

So what were the Adelaide players doing to deserve the booing, Randle in particular?

Years ago

I agree the officiating in the Cairns game was far far worse, but the officiating in this game ultimately meant Adelaide was robbed a legitimate chance to win.

Officials can't be making that blatant an error in such a defining moment of a game (notwithstanding the other horrible errors called against both teams throughout). It ruined the match and one of the all-time great individual offensive performances in recent memory.

Years ago

Of course Perth suffered without Martin. That's what happens when you lose a great player, particularly during the game. Even worse is there was no suitable replacement for him (Wroe did quite well but is still a rookie/DP).

I don't know any team in the league who would still be competitive with no decent point guard.

Years ago

You might be forgetting DD!

Anonymous
Years ago

36ers WASTED Randles effort last night.

That rebounding effort was dismal.

The concern is that they were much more motivated to collect offensive boards than defensive boards.

Why? Because that is all what this team is. Thats all they are interested in....scoring and couldnt give a rats about defending.

This team will finish dead last because there coach is the most delusional in the NBL

Anonymous
Years ago

He would have asked the ref what he was smoking.

Years ago

Three things I learned watching last night's game.....

1. Randle is carrying the 36ers. Without him we'd be dead last.

2. We rely too much on DJ to get the boards. No DJ last night and Perth owned us there.

3. As good as Perth are, last night showed how much they rely on Damien Martin. When he got injured they looked lost and it was only dubious refereeing that saved them.

I wonder what Ken Cole would have said about that bogus charge call if he was coaching Adelaide??

Anonymous
Years ago

Funny thing is, the reffing in Cairns was much much worse. The refs just let a heap of contact go and it turned into an ugly rugby game. Thankfully it was a tight contest.

In Perth, they called it clean and that allowed for a much more skilful game of basketball where offensive talent got to shine. That's unusual for a game in Perth.

It was unfortunate there were some very obvious errors - the crosscourt, the Knight charge and the three-pointer counting well after a foul occurred sticking in my memory - but I'd much prefer what happened in Perth over the display in Cairns.

Anonymous
Years ago

Funny thing is, the reffing in Cairns was much much worse. The refs just let a heap of contact go and it turned into an ugly rugby game. Thankfully it was a tight contest.

In Perth, they called it clean and that allowed for a much more skilful game of basketball where offensive talent got to shine. That's unusual for a game in Perth.

It was unfortunate there were some very obvious errors - the crosscourt, the Knight charge and the three-pointer counting well after a foul occurred sticking in my memory - but I'd much prefer what happened in Perth over the display in Cairns.

Anonymous
Years ago

In reality, the bad calls just added to the drama of the game. It was the best spectacle of the year without a doubt. Great to watch.

Years ago

The reffing was incredibly bad.
A shame given it was Saturday night, 12,000 people at Perth arena, a close game and a guy like Randle lighting it up. That was a real spectacle for the NBL and it was let down by bad calls.

Anonymous
Years ago

The refs were very chatty as well I noticed. Lots of warnings issued to both teams about their complaints. I heard one to Joey was "if you question my integrity again I'm going to tech you, you hear me?"

Was just a bit of a fiery atmosphere all around and I think it was getting to everyone. The sixers get pretty agro at each other as well I noticed, but I think in a good competitive way

Anonymous
Years ago

Yep, the crosscourt was a howler, a ref reverting to old habits. The Knight charge call at the end was a bit the same, after the refs had called charge/block in favour of the offence all night he went back to the old way of favouring the guy who fell over!

Not to worry, amazing game, so many momentum shifts and big plays. Adelaide are doing a hell of a job with the players they have out.

Years ago
But still had to be almost physically dragged to the video review for that epically bogus call. Seriously, how the heck could not one of the refs see what everyone else did?
Sobey being pushed in the back, you mean?

The backcourt violation on Wroe was the worst call I have ever seen in professional basketball.
Anonymous
Years ago

We truly are the Hawthorn of the NBL ;)

Years ago

The refereeing was atrocious. Do they do it deliberately, or is it just subconscious thing??? Clearly favoured the 6's throughout the game, as they were getting pummelled, then became more even-handed as the game got closer, and then I suspect favoured the cats when they released they might actually have turned the game.

But still had to be almost physically dragged to the video review for that epically bogus call. Seriously, how the heck could not one of the refs see what everyone else did? That the ball clearly came off the 6's player? Don't think ANYONE was the slightest surprised when they overturned the call on review.

Years ago

I'm pretty keen to look at some of those charge calls. The Randle/Martin one and the Knight/Randle one at the end look like total howlers live.

Years ago

I actually thought that Randle picked up his 5th at some point too. Another thing I need to look out for when I watch the replay...

Years ago

ROFLOGopter

Years ago

OT would of been very interesting though. Sobey and Drmic already fouled out and Hodgson and Randle on 4 PF's. Wroe on 4 for Perth.

Years ago

It's definitely best for the Cats that we didn't get OT! but when that shot went up, in that moment I just couldn't help hoping that it would drop.

Years ago

Gleeson is a flog

Years ago

@Luc - I dont think my nerves could handle another OT lol. Its been a crazy season so far, every home game has been a thriller.

Years ago

"At the end they (Adelaide) had all the momentum .... they had everything go their way"
LOLWUT?

Years ago

Corrupt refs. Nearly a charge!!

There isn't a team in the universe I despise more than the Wildcats. Love to hate them, hate when we lose to them. Oh well, it was a great game. Knight was lucky as even Perf fans know deep down that was a bail out call.

Gleeson biggest flog since Redhage

Years ago

Gleeson / JJ post-game press conference
https://audioboom.com/posts/5249363-perth-wildcats-106-def-adelaide-36ers-103

Years ago

I was hoping his hail mary at the end went in just so we could get another 5 minutes of drama.
Looking forward to watching the replay tomorrow, as much as anything to get another look at some of the reffing decisions, because there sure seemed like a lot of ordinary ones being dished out.

Arrogant play by the cats (IMO) very nearly bit us on the arse hard tonight.
The Randle Show was a beautiful thing. What an asset he has been for this league.

 

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