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Anonymous
Years ago

United release Cedric Jackson

Totally agree Cedric was terrible, but as a coach u put him in a position/situations where he can be effective, posting him up when he shoots 30% from the field and 50% from the line is not gonna work. Play him in P & R where he can get others involved, my problem is he's not competing on the defensive end.

Anonymous
Years ago

Cedric was terrible this year this is addition by subtraction

Anonymous
Years ago

Vince Crivelli is the problem, after D-mac was fired he had a chance to get Rob Beveridge and didn't take him cause he didn't like him, said he didn't want an aussie coach after he missed out on Lemanis & Goorgian at the time D-mac was coaching, so he went to the states to get a coach who knew nothing about the league.

He keeps his job cause LK loves him, case closed.

Anonymous
Years ago

Agreed. Who knows with Melbourne though.

Years ago

@paul - fair point, but they are still leaving it pretty late to announce if he is suiting up this weekend. You would think if they were suiting him up he would at least be in town and training with the team.

Anonymous
Years ago

Don't think they'd bother Train, 'name' basketball players traditionally don't draw crowds in Australia because no one knows who they are!

Years ago

Got one of those mates who swears they have signed 'Player X' and that they pulled the trigger quickly on CJ because 'X' was already in talks with Perth.
(No actual facts to back this up, just his divine inspiration) ROFL

Years ago

Didn't United state they had a replacement ready to go for Saturday. Leaving it a bit short for the announcement.

Doesn't sound like it's going to be a spectacular signing, if it was they would of announced it to draw interest to the game and get more bums on seats.

Years ago

Any news anyone?

Years ago

If Jordair Jett hasn't been playing anywhere lately he could be 110kgs +

Years ago

Jordair Jett to United??
Surely not.

Years ago

All sorts of wacky theories flying around, interesting to see if any come to pass.

Years ago

Not sure if it's an understood convention and probably lost in a world of haphazard writing, but I use that same practice. Double quotes for a direct quote and single quotes for something capturing the sentiment (paraphrasing, etc).

Years ago

..'don't go to Aussie man, they're ruthless and theyll cut you willy nilly'.

Thanks for the laugh,you can really hear a Yank saying "Willy nilly" LOL.

Well IMO (and the reason for doing it is) single quotation marks generally refers to thoughts; double quotation marks are actual speech.

Years ago

Jett would be a nice fit because of his days at Townsville but I'd just split minutes between Adnam and Tomlinson.
Melbournes biggest problem is that too many people want to handle the ball. Too many players like to create shots and not be a spot up option. Thats what the difference is with Sydneys loaded to team to Melbournes.

Years ago

Saw a very vague rumor on twitter last night suggesting that Jordair Jett was the replacement for Jackson. It was just a comment on one of Jett's tweets so doubt it has much credibility. Has anyone else heard anything about this?

Years ago

..'don't go to Aussie man, they're ruthless and theyll cut you willy nilly'.

Thanks for the laugh,you can really hear a Yank saying "Willy nilly" LOL.

Years ago

CNS are innovative when it comes to imports and are not interested in everyone else's scraps. We only get washed up locals. Trice will be fine.

Years ago

Things didn't workout with United although Ced is an all time great in the NBL.

Years ago

I want to see Jackson in a Wildcats jersey!

Oh I meant Jackson Hussey not that wanker I boo every time I see him at Perth Arena.

How do you trust Cedric, he air balls more free throws and 3 pointers than nearly any player in NBL history and this season with shooters all around him (and Majok) he still thinks the team need him shooting 10-15 shots a game, I don't hate on him for being a post up point guard but one that thinks they need him shooting that much to win.

He is a top shelf facilitator and rebounder and competitor when he's mind is on the job but I only wanna see him at Perth Arena to boo him some more.

I think if Trice finds himself injured again (yes I'm concerned that he may be injury prone) then him in Cairns could work rather well, otherwise Brisbane could use him

Years ago

Yea i like McKay, one of the better import bigs in the NBL

Years ago

The reality is in Europe teams are much quicker to pull the trigger on imports than we are here. If anything we put up with under performing imports for too long.

I'm not sure if this will be the end for Cedric in the NBL but with his attitude this season it should be. He made a big mistake leaving the Breakers for MU and now being punted by them. Should've stayed there even just to get his Kiwi citizenship and then could've played anywhere in the NBL as a local for years to come whilst still commanding good money.

Years ago

Cedric Jackson is done in the NBL now. His poor attitude saw him basically passed over by New Zealand, and his poor attitude is a large part of why Melbourne dropped him. Teams will not continue to pick up a guy with attitude problems. So my bet is this is the last you'll see of him in the league.

And fair enough. As all of you have noted, his play has been on the decline.

Melbourne United and Perth Wildcats look like basket cases right now. Everyone is trying to catch up to Sydney and I can't see anyone doing it this season.

"Pissed off as a wider NBL fan really as the more this happens the greater damage it has to our league's reputation..'don't go to Aussie man, they're ruthless and theyll cut you willy nilly'."

The import turn-over is a product of the standard of the league. If they're not good enough, they don't stick around. I don't think NBL teams should keep under-performing imports just so we look like a nice, easy place to play.

Years ago

Yes, there is bad blood between Jackson and Webster so I can't see him going to NZ until Webster is out of there.

There are ties and interest and need in Brisbane, but as someone already said, unless they have spare cash to work with, they'd need to go to LK and he might discourage them thinking it a risky move.

If he's paid out by Melbourne, a lone suitor could realistically get him for peanuts. In that case, Perth could play him off the bench should Martin return. Incidentally, Martin's 3P% is not far off or better than those of: Goulding, Clarke, Norton, Randle, Webster, Drmic, Andersen, Loughton, Bruce, Prather, Hire, Harris, Wagstaff, Gliddon, Ellis, Newley, Coenraad, Worthington...

Years ago
Were MU delaying a few days until NZ had signed a PG for Woodside..to avoid NZ picking up Ced?
Webster and Jackson on the same team? Can't see it happening.
Years ago

So the coach who has picked these now sacked players keeps his job.

Years ago
Can you imagine a backcourt of CJ and Martin?
Firstly the whole point (of any Cats discussion) is that Martin is realistically gone for the season. Could be back in 12 weeks, could be 10, could be 15, etc. If we COULD sign CJ, I'd take in him a flash.
Secondly, even if he was signed beyond this season, a backcourt of Martin and Jackson would be better than Martin & Kenny.

But we're not going to cut JJ, and I'd say we're unlikely to cut McKay to sign a guard, unless we have another quality local big lined up.
Anonymous
Years ago

But, perhaps it could lead to a better class of import coming out here. One who is prepared to play hard and leave his attitude at home.

Years ago

Were MU delaying a few days until NZ had signed a PG for Woodside..to avoid NZ picking up Ced? (Not that they are prevented from now going to Ced im presuming but not a good look culling Stockton).

Can't understand this. Pissed off as a wider NBL fan really as the more this happens the greater damage it has to our league's reputation..'don't go to Aussie man, they're ruthless and theyll cut you willy nilly'.

Years ago

Not surprised. Yet another example that coach DD can't put together the different components in order to get the best out of them as a unit. Maybe the replacement can save his ass.

I don't think anyone who returned from last season has improved apart from Adnam. Todd finally was hitting shots, but is he a better player now than when he arrived? CG43, Majok, Tomlinson ... I reckon they've gone backwards

Anonymous
Years ago

Jackson would be great at Brisbane

Anonymous
Years ago

Cats would be dumb to cut JJ again. He has changed his game by working off the ball more and not trying to create off his dribble.
I'd much prefer to keep Matty playing pf and keep McKay. But would the cats be better off with Jackson and no McKay or as is using wroe, Hussey et al?

Years ago

NEWSFLASH!!

Melbourne United report that they are extremely embarrased to have released their point guard, Cedric Jackson, too early.

A team official, who cannot be named, is reported as saying: "Unfortunately, the guy we had in mind to replace him turns out to have scored himself another job in the interim.

Here's the link.

https://scontent-syd2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14639604_10157923329780725_856028268159814788_n.jpg?oh=06f5b121bfdd89b3860b189d0bf243de&oe=5895A6D6

Years ago

I think Melbourne are now paying for just expecting it all to happen. Obviously everyone wants and needs talent but you still have to think about the balance of your team and the way they all work together. DD just went out and got the best 11 or so players he could find. That approach rarely comes comes together. Jackson never looked at home in Melbourne.

Brisbane are the obvious suitors given they have an import spot ready to burn. And i think they need him too because Gibson/Bruce doesn't look good enough to me.

Years ago

What you guys dont like a fucking PG that posts up?? past his best good move MU

Years ago

Poorly used at MU, largely because they don't have a coach. Oh, wait, they do? Who? Surely not that Demopoulos guy?

I don't think Perth should pick him up, as has been posted, it will be dreadful to have him and Marto on the floor together. Could they rotate the two of them? Surely Marto will take a little time to get his game going again after 12 weeks off. If they do pick him up, it would have to be at the expense of McKay, not Johnson. How would they ever recruit imports again, if they sack the same guy twice in one season, after guaranteeing him the rest of the season when they brought him back in?

As I've posted before, I think Matt Burston (I think he's a native WAussie) would be a good fit for the team if they did cut McKay to bring in Jackson.

How funny is it that MU have cut him, though? He was brought in as the Man to bring them the Championship, and all that hooha, now they can't wait to get rid of him.

Anonymous
Years ago

CJ is trash now, can't shoot and has regressed with his game in most areas.

Do not want for Cats

Years ago

Replacement is supposed available Saturday. True or not I don't know, but as always if you sack a player you have to have a player ordered a few weeks ago. Shame it wasn't the coach.

Anonymous
Years ago

Is there a replacement lined up?

Anonymous
Years ago

I expect Sydney to sign CJ asap. By all reports they have plenty of room under the cap.

Anonymous
Years ago

His shooting mechanics were never to my liking, even though he is certainly a plus pick and roll player and flashes great vision and leadership skills. His high usage rate may have been a problem too especially in DD's sets.

Still, he projected as an above average 1 at worst at this level this year so it is puzzling to see him on the outer and one wonders if intra-team dynamics or backroom shenanigans are to blame for his sudden demise.

Years ago

WOW.

I really hope Brisbane go hard to get him, he is exactly what they need to take a step up. Unsure if they'll try to make the move though as the money needed would be coming from the league owner.

Chop Te Rangi and make it happen please!!!!

Anonymous
Years ago

No shortage of drama this season..

Years ago

How does CJ get sacked before Williams who has been nothing short of atrocious? CJ had a pretty good first two weeks of the season. The last 3 weeks he has been pretty bloody poor but he should have been given more time IMO.

Years ago

Didn't Brisbane show serious interest in Jackson before he was locked up by Melbourne?

Anonymous
Years ago

And sign matt burston

Anonymous
Years ago

Release McKay. Sign Jackson. Play JJ and Prather as 2/3. Play kenny and Jackson as 1/2 until Martin gets back. Then play Martin / Jackson as 1/2 and kenny as a 2

Years ago

He was always a weird signing for mine. Yes he's a champion, the premier PG in the league over the past several years, but very definitely on the decline.
All other things being equal, his value was to stick around NZ a bit more and get naturalised.

MU are just really dysfunctional.
What does the "U" stand for again?

Years ago

JJ just started packing...

Anonymous
Years ago

Come on Cats, lets move.

 

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