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Goorjian to coach United next season?

"I think you probably do given you're on here enough to know the very recent discussion about 12 minute quarters"

I don't get that discussion either!

"Don't get me wrong, i'd like him to come back because he's a damn good coach, but I want the NBL and Reffing to get their act together."

This. People complain about Perth's physicality, but the two years the league called the game much tighter, 2010 and 2014, they won the title.

Call the game predictably and any good coach and team will adjust accordingly. Goorjian is no different.

The one thing Dazzling Dazz remembers about the greatest coach in NBL history isn't that, you know, he's a freaking great coach and his teams do really well every single year and play great D.

It's that he's arrogant. A special kind of person, that Dazz......

So we only want coaches in our league who coach a certain type of basketball?

I couldn't care less what style of basketball my team plays

I don't understand this discussion at all. So we only want coaches in our league who coach a certain type of basketball? We only want a D'antoni type coach who promotes offence over defence rather than a Popovich style of defensive-first basketball???

I couldn't care less what style of basketball my team plays as long as it's a winning style.

There's nothing to say Goorj's style of coaching turned people away from the NBL. The non-basketball purists I know who just go to games casually don't really understand the nuances anyway - and as long as the games are close seem to leave pretty happy.

God forbid people have a discussion on a discussion board Anonymous. If you don't like it, take your own advice and don't go here?

I don't get this discussion

I don't get this discussion, the sort of physicality that was introduced by a small number of teams, including Goorjians, in the 90s is the norm now. If he came back coaching you wouldn't bat an eyelid.

But who says Goorjian's coaching style hasn't changed?

Did you hear the CBA complaining about his coaching style in China? No.

Goorjian is a good coach - no doubt - but does the NBL want a coach back who does what Pop said? I agree, his sides got away with a ridiculous amount of illegal physicality that we don't want in this game. The question is, would the NBL and the refs be capable of calling the game properly if this occurs again or does it go back to the old days?

The one thing Dazzling Dazz remembers about the greatest coach in NBL history isn't that, you know, he's a freaking great coach and his teams do really well every single year and play great D.

It's that he's arrogant. A special kind of person, that Dazz......

The one thing I clearly remember about Goorjian is his arrogance. Just lots of little things he would do, to show his contempt.
Disliked the guy, but that doesn't make him a bad coach.

Zodiac, yep the refs should have fouled out his players until he pulled his head in.

He was always known for his over-sized ego. The game was, and still is, bigger than him.

No to coaching in the NBL and an even stronger NO to him coaching the Boomers.

I really enjoy seeing basketballers play defence and 'run their plays to perfection'.

What I don't like, in this context, is a coach who damages the game by cynically and consistently coaching intentional physical thuggery instead of defence.

It's ridiculous to blame Goorjian for the entire NBL's decline.

The refs were free to call it how they saw fit, and the NBL was at it's liberty to issue whatever interpretive instructions they wanted.

Goorjian might've pushed the boundaries, but he didn't make them.

7 years later? Try 20!

As I see it, basketball in Australia is still trying to recover from Goorjian's cynical 'bash through' philosophy - if you hit and grab enough the refs will become 'conditioned' to it and stop calling it. In fact they stop 'seeing' it because it 'looks normal'.

Most definitely don't want to revisit that.

As I see it, basketball in Australia is still trying to recover from Goorjian's cynical 'bash through' philosophy - if you hit and grab enough the refs will become 'conditioned' to it and stop calling it. In fact they stop 'seeing' it because it 'looks normal'.

Most definitely don't want to revisit that.

However, I have no idea if he still embraces this philosophy. Anyone know if his Chinese team is tarred with the same 'illegal physicality' brush?

Anon source????

Goorgian to the United is already done. will start next season

and don't forget CJ Bruton!

Huh? His Kings teams were notorious for flopping. Wortho, Smith, Hinder and Kendall on one team...all part of the Flopping Hall of Fame!

I seriously doubt Goorjian had anything to do with flopping. He pushed for tough play from his squad and testing the limits, but that's entirely different and up to the refs to police.

WTF? WTF!

Anti social play? WTF!

A lot of the unpopular and anti-social style of play that people hate today was mastered by Goorj. I wonder if flopping and physical play will continue to be a blight on the game if/when he returns?

Yeah, but I'm not suggesting we keep DD, either. Not at this stage.

If we miss the playoffs, then sacking DD is a no brainer. If we recover to play some good bball and then lose in the semis again, they will have an interesting decision. If we recover to make the GF or win the thing then DD will have done enough to earn another year.

(4 months younger)

DD is 63 - Goorj is younger than him

Goorjian is the greatest coach in NBL history.

You can hardly call him the kiss of death. He was in Sydney during the Johnston firepower thing and Cowan bailed out of the Dragons- neither had much to do with Goorjian.

If they can get him, it's a huge win. Only issue is age. He's 63. But then again, Poppovich is 67...age is nothing but a number. Do it.

There is an end game with the ties currently being built with China.

- Chinese teams playing in pre-season competition
- Games being telecast into China
- Major sponsors have links/strategies of expanding into China
- Chinese players(s) being signed as development players
- Discussions ongoing for Chinese team to play in NBL perm.

Clear strategy here involving China and I am not sure if it is in the best long term interests of the game in Australia.

Sorry to hijack thread. Another topic for another thread.

Starting with the 36ers? Or is it a different investor?

Almost every single NBL club has either folded or needed bailing out at some point (Adelaide, Cairns, Illawarra, etc). Goorjian's coached for a long time so chances are he's been involved with a few.

I'd hire him.

Don't be surprised if an "International" investor buys all or part of LK's share in the NBL within the next 2 seasons.

Brisbane has its uniform full with sponsorship so good signs there. Merch has also been selling well judging by the massive lines each week. Disappointing there is no online store still.

This would be great news for united and nearly worth the pain of lasting the season with DD

Well Brisbane only have 4000 seats to fill so their crowds were never going to be huge and they would have budgeted accordingly.

They would have to find revenue from other areas eg sponsorship and merch sales to help them make up for the attendance shortfall.

Playing in smaller stadiums mean they would make a profit with those 'smaller' numbers. Attendance would only make up a certain % of a clubs revenue.

Whats the average crowd in brisbane? Kestleman running MU, Bullets and the Nbl wont keep doing it forever.
Now paying production costs is killing it.

"and that's why you're not a multi millionaire....."

GOLD

Best come back to the 12 year old anons

and that's why you're not a multi millionaire.....

I pull out after 3 minutes

Very much doubt LK pulls out after 3 seasons

"Interestingly I also head to day about a push to get rid of Cairns and bring in China and the Philippines. Brisbane struggling with crowds and the chestnut of LK pulling out after year 3. It was suggested he was going to invest %7+ mill into the NBL. That figure now is meant to be $50mill+
The new NBL would represent all states not sure about territories of Australia. 1 team"

How can you say that Brisbane is struggling with crowds?

They sellout every game and from what I can see, the interest is quite high.

Are you saying LK will pull out after next season? (Year 3)

I don't think you understand the concept of bad joojoo

Theory #2 is United chief executive Vince Crivelli was behind hiring Demopoulos, and to sack him is to admit he got it wrong.

It wasn't a rumour, the deal was a done last year until Creveli worked his magic

Actually it's Spectres, Magic, Titans, Kings, Dragons all gone under Goorjian. United would be off going for someone like Shawn Dennis or even Ian Stacker.

Boti was running with the Goorj to MU rumour last year too and then they signed DD to replace D-Mac so I'll believe it when it happens.

Titans, Dragons, Kings... United?

He has some bad joojoo, maybe China got rid of the curse

after being shafted by Creveli on the last contract when he was ready to come?

Crazy that people keep telling Bruce this stuff and he runs straight to a forum and posts it. He hasn't been right in years.

Goorj likes sending teams bankrupt...