Hoops

Breakers vs Hawks, Nov 18

Yeah. I get the press because he wants up tempo and the team goes deep but I don't get the press because their are SFA athletes in the team who are suited to that defensive style.

That first quarter was as bad a defensive effort as I have seen.

As I said the team is struggling and again everyone (bar Martin) was abysmal early on.

Breakers looking good but it could all turn around tomorrow.

Very hard to pick winners in this NBL.

If Beveridge can somehow get his team to play consistently they could be very dangerous (obvious comment I know), but I think they have to use that press more sparingly, it hurts them at least as much as it helps.

Big game for them Sunday, a loss will leave them at 4-7 after six home games with a big mountain to climb.

I suggest Dec 3rd is crunch day for Winder - deliver or show you can deliver. Key import got to be giving us more.I rather young aussies on court with view to developing than a liability - hill holmes ng daly johnno creek carter harris get them on court - minutes equals dev. Harris will only improve by being on the court at the moments results dont matter

+1

Enetertaining game.

Why go to watch DD and United stink up the gym when you can stay home and get the NZ game and the United game back to back for free?

Haha.

Well Hawks have flipped a switch here.

Ie this is now somewhat of a contest. If that layup hasn't have rimmed out we could've had a single digit margin heading into the 4th! Who would've thought that a few minutes ago

DD will torch it.

Oops wrong thread :P

Oops wrong thread!

Taipans are very strong on D, so I hope Ware comes out aggressively and looks to push the pace. This team can get its mono back if it starts running.

The best and easiest way to score in basketball is in transition- before the D is set. And it doesn't have to be off TOs (although that helps). With a 5 game losing streak in play, Melbourne should be looking to push the ball every time they get a rebound, to get some cheap points and get some confidence back.

Illawarra's D *really is* atrocious tonight.

Where's AJ Ogilvy circa 2015/16, and what have you done with him? Bevo wants to know....

Stockton looks like a kid.

Bugger me.
The home cooking in this NZ game is atrocious.
The NBL needs to sort this crap ASAP if they want to build the sport.

It's just amazing the difference between their best and worst basketball. Last week in Adelaide they were getting spanked and then flicked a switch. Glad I don't barrack for them.

Hah yeah I was about to say, they're at their defensive best!

Well LV, the Hawks making a strong case for the rubbish argument so far tonight. ;-)

Clarke has been very underwhelming this season and does look like he's had the 'gunner' attitude knocked out of him the past two years in Europe.

Will be interesting to see how Stockton goes.

Maybe Clarke doesn't make those shots anymore. He isn't anywhere near top shelf anymore.

Hawks are still trying to click together, no doubt, but I don't think the beating teams at full strength argument carries much weight this season. Every team that functions as a team (ie everyone bar Melbourne) has had wins without significant pieces.

If Clarke starts making shots he normally makes things change very quickly for the Hawks. They have 7/10 at home to finish the season so crucial they pinch a few road wins in the coming weeks.

Beveridge is a flog

Hawks aren't going well enough to win this on the road in NZ. Even though Cairns got them last week the Breakers would be very difficult to defeat at home with the form they are in. I think Breakers can win this by 10+

Meant without DJ and Creek and without Martin.

Hawks are a fair way below the level I expected to them to be.

Only really hit their straps in the first game against Adelaide.

Individually most players are down on form and it is possible that the "if your open get your shot up regardless of where you sit in the pecking order" philosophy might be hindering the guns from finding any rhythm.

They might be 4/5 but two of those wins have been against Adelaide (one of those with DJ and Creek) and the other two against a Cats team with Martin and a decimated United squad.

They have not had a win against any full strength team bar the defenceless 36ers in Rd 1.

Bevo might need to adjust their playing style if things don't come together soon.

Big test this week as to where they are at.

Breakers by 6 is my non biased tip