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Cuszy

Years ago

New Chinese and Melbourne team in NBL?

Leave Dazz alone. He discovered recently that coaches use numbers and words for plays.

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Luuuc

Years ago

Fair go buddy. Try to take every post on its merits instead of just prejudging based off who posted it. I reckon the 3rd in that series of 3 posts might be his best post ever.

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Anonymous

Years ago

More drivel from Dazz. Go and whinge to the mods yet again, you lowlife.

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ChairmanOfTheBored

Years ago

If they want to expand into Asia they should look to something closer and more easily relatable to Aussies. Field a Bali side. They could wear Bintang singlets. I'm not sure of a team name, but it's probably best to avoid the nickname of the old 1940s St Louis NBA team.

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Cuszy

Years ago

The article is on the Herald Sun page and the DT.

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Anonymous

Years ago

Wellington and Hobart only in the short term imo

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koberulz

Years ago

For starters, we'd need to establish the NBL as a significantly superior league.

What was the smallest margin in the NBL vs CBA games at the ABC again?

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Anonymous

Years ago

Well said dazz. I would've thought the champions league format where our teams play theirs is the best way to show our quality. Then you have fans from their respective nations with parochial barracking for their own teams rather than some foreigners who play out of your gym. It just makes too much sense not to do it

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Dazz

Years ago

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Dazz

Years ago

If you want an Asian team name it an Asian team. Not an Australian team pretending to be an Asian team."

I don't think FIBA will let the NBL have a team based in Asia, so LK has to find another way.

What I'd expect is a something like a team with Chinese owners, who play most of their home games in China, have a deal with Chinese TV, a mix of Aus, NZ, US and Chinese players but are officially an Australian-based team.

So we can't have a team "based in China,"
but we can have a Chinese team playing "Most of their home games in China"???

Putting aside the logistical nightmares and incredible expense of playing NBL games in China.
Presumably the goal (apart from an extra licence fee) is generate viewer support in China and leverage a broadcast deal with a Chinese network.
Now yes, that has the potential to be a huge deal, but you'd need to have a quality product with significant appeal to the Chinese market. China is a major country, with potentially the biggest consumer market in the world. They are not some pisspot developing nation happy to take the westerner's scraps.

Let me put it this way, if instead the NBL entered a team n the Chines League, would we all buy Foxtel subscriptions to watch it?
Particularly if it was just some re-branded Chinese team with a Dodo sponsorship deal???

For starters, we'd need to establish the NBL as a significantly superior league. We could do that with many of our neighbouring countries, but I'm not so sure about China? How much do Chinese players make in their league? I don't know enough.
Then, no matter how you structure it, it needs to be something that grabs the support of the Chinese. A reincarnation of the Slingers isn't going to do that.

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Dazz

Years ago

Dazz, Wellington have a 4,000 seat venue where the Wellington Saints play in the NZ NBL, which is about the same size as the Brisbane Convention Centre.

Sorry yeah, I was vaguely aware of that.
I'm thinking the issue with Brisbane, and any other new team, is that you expect the crowds to grow over time, and move to a bigger venue. Makes sense to start in something around the 3~4k mark, get a good atmosphere going, but to be viable long-term, they would need to be able to eventually pull bigger crowds, and have a bigger venue, especially for finals.

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Anonymous

Years ago

And why isn't there a champions league tournament? Is it too hard logistically?

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Anonymous

Years ago

Not questioning that they do mind, but can you explain the reason?

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Anonymous

Years ago

Trust me, FIBA do mind. And the NBL won't be able to play games in China without CBA approval, so the fact the NBL is talking publicly about it tells me that side of things is going well.

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nimaprice@hotmail.com

Years ago

My views

1)FIBA wouldn't mind as now Oceania is playing in FIBA Asia's Olympic qualifying format

2)I'm not sure the Chinese basketball Assocation will allow chinese clubs to play in an Australian league. It could undermine the local CBA comp.

3)Maybe an Asian champion's league format would be better to align the big leagues in the Asia-Pacific. This Champion's league format idea has been floated about since about 2010-onwards.

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Callan

Years ago

Dazz, Wellington have a 4,000 seat venue where the Wellington Saints play in the NZ NBL, which is about the same size as the Brisbane Convention Centre.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TSB_Bank_Arena

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Anonymous

Years ago

"If you want an Asian team name it an Asian team. Not an Australian team pretending to be an Asian team."

I don't think FIBA will let the NBL have a team based in Asia, so LK has to find another way.

What I'd expect is a something like a team with Chinese owners, who play most of their home games in China, have a deal with Chinese TV, a mix of Aus, NZ, US and Chinese players but are officially an Australian-based team.

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Dazz

Years ago

I don't know the exact dynamics of what would work best, but a 2nd team in Melbourne certainly makes sense. If they can get a bunch of non-tigers and non-MU fans back to the NBL, and get a cross-town rivalry going, it could be epic. There are some big venue in Melbourne, so cross-town games could become HUGE.

Same with Wellington, there is just so much to like about that idea. Trips to NZ would become the new "doomsday double," but at least with the 2nd game the travel factor would be mitigated. And again, an inter-NZ rivalry could be huge.
Over time, it would also water down the Tall-Blacks' factor.
My only question is whether they have a big enough venue?

Not sold on trying to play games in China.

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Anonymous

Years ago

I don’t hide the fact I’d love to see a team potentially based at another Australian location, but playing a lot of games out of China or the Philippines.

“It will still be an Australian NBL club, but it will build an audience and following in Asia.”

Haven't we learned from the slingers failure? If you want an Asian team name it an Asian team. Not an Australian team pretending to be an Asian team and failing to capture the imagination of the Asian and Australian market

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Callan

Years ago

Found the article

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/nbl-to-expand-in-2018-with-china-melbourne-and-wellington-in-line-for-teams/news-story/cd3da111b22393636a4a0b590a01f5a7

Wellington makes sense, would be interesting how they'd make China work, I'm guessing Australian and New Zealand teams would play their 2 games in China during the same trip and the Chinese team would do 5 or so game tours to minimise travel.

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Aussie

Years ago

"NO NO NO . This is most even nbl season ever and they want to expand and bring in weaker sides.I'm not liking the idea."

This is all about revenue. Which is pivotal. Sports, or any business

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Aussie

Years ago

"Read the forum... there's a Kestleman thread about this."

Good try but that thread is about the Herald Sun, NOT the Telegraph.

Also, the Herald mentions nothing about a new Melbourne team.

Anyone else?

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Anonymous

Years ago

NO NO NO . This is most even nbl season ever and they want to expand and bring in weaker sides.I'm not liking the idea.

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Aussie

Years ago

So trying to organise a bucks night but am struggling to find a good beer garden. Have tried the Alma, Maid, Avoca & HWY but all are booked…

Any other ideas???

What is your favourite beer garden?

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