Hoops

Kings vs 36ers rematch, Dec 18

ROFL " Creek isn't a baller"

18 pts
6/6 fgs
5/5 fts
Huge block

Classic hater

Dion Prewster is a guard but he hardly gets on, why sign him.

Yeah it doesn't make sense. This is a big budget team, so odd that they haven't replaced Bryson/Blake

The kings lost to 36ers wasn't a sign they need a point guard but more so they need to defend in the half court and containing the likes of Randle, sobey and even creek.

There defensive liability is now being exploited with Lisch the only kings player that can defend the opposition guards.

Khazzouh most likely will not return this season and if he does won't be the answer for the kings on the defensive end.

The kings are in real danger of not making the finals.

I can't see them winning the title without another guard, and can't understand why they aren't replacing Blake, there's thousands of options out there to fit any budget.

Gaze clearly said it is what it is re replacement players, I think it probably got something to with the 5 players under 400g. He clearly took some of the blame for not playing his bench more earlier in the season and mentioned Moller specifically as being able to play but he has not allowed his bench the same latitude in mistakes as starters, you got play them to be able to learn, joey is a master of this, bevo and lemanis get done as well. Gazey iis new to top level coaching but he's a quick learner so hopefully kings make finals.

@Steve2k, thanks for posting that. Interesting that Sydney don't appear to be going to replace Blake. It's too early in a jam packed season to be running with 7 or 8 guys.

Kings need Khazzouh back ASAP, and really need backcourt help. Whittington had to play 40 minutes, tonight, because Newley was backing up Lisch and Cadee as well as playing 3. That, plus the short turn around from Friday night, is why the Kings looked so spent in this match, and a big part of how they lost.

KET, value for Adelaide in keeping the streak alive, plus taking down a likely finals-bound opponent.

I really hope you don't play basketball, I can only imagine people having to deal with such a fool.

KET said " I noticed Randle wasn't substituted at his normal time 2mins to go in 3Q until 7/8 mins to left in the 4Q"

I guess that's why you aren't their coach.

"Obviously, swearing at the ref is a no-no. Garlepp needs to check his temper."

No it's not. If the retard refs got it right in the 1st instance there would be TF.
You really don't know a lot about the game KET.

Thanks SteveK2.

Definitely not much depth. Drewy not sold on Moller clearly.

At their best they can be very good, but just can't afford injuries. I'd be playing Cadee and Lisch 35 mins each.

Where's the dud that said Drmic should start for Sobey?

I'm the dud. The suggestion was ages ago and was based on an idea to improve the balance of the team as opposed to a Sobey demotion. Do i still think the same after this unforeseeable run of form? No of course not. Am i happy to be proven wrong in regards to the lineup and improvements/adjustments from Joey? Yes. But stop misrepresenting what people have to say on this forum. Come up with something better than just dismissing people who have opposing views as duds. Surely you can do a bit better?

@Isaac, I'm not saying you were directly supporting what i said about Sobey but yes that was my thinking at the time in terms of balance. It was mainly the idea that Sobey could be used as a bench weapon while Randle was off. Of course i don't think that now.

I've nothing interesting or original to say when Adelaide are going so well but i have to congratulate them on waking up in a few key areas. Defensively, the team is so much better and they're running offence beautifully a t times. That home loss to Brisbane has really got them firing.

@LV

Go to 17:20, Gaze addresses the issue somewhat. Doesn't sound good for them.

'I can see how it happened though. Garlepp made a shoving motion (towards Deng?) and then Jacobsen stumbled, possibly over Deng's leg. I imagine it looked like Garlepp shoved Jacobsen.'

The ball was dead from a score, play wasn't really impacted

If I remember correctly, at one stage today Gaze ran with

Cadee(or possibly Lisch?)
Whittington
Moller
Garlepp
Maric (or was it Powell?)

With Blake gone, Sydney should really have signed another import guard.

Where's the dud that said Drmic should start for Sobey?

Whittington played the entire game, Lish and Randle both played around 37-38 minutes. That's extraordinary. Clearly it was an important game for both sides - both might feel the repercussions against their next opponents?

"Please. Refs review a play, see its a bad call, can't change the call, but assign a tech foul when the player gets upset about it. Nice."

Actually no the bad call happened, Garlepp than swore at the ref so it was a correct tech foul. Sydney fans can't say "well it was a bad call so they shouldn't have called the tech foul" You swear at a ref in such a bad way you get a tech foul, simple. Newley should have got an unsportsmanlike foul with 3:33 left in the fourth when after fouling Sobey then sticks his knee out to trip him up which was right in front of the referee.


Other than that poor call on Garlepp the officiating wasn't that bad compared to other games this season. Yes, there was bad make up calls. Yes, there was soft calls however the officiating didn't affect the result. What affected the result was Sydney's inability to play consistent defense throughout the game with Adelaide shooting at 56% FG, 50% 3pt and 80% from the foul line! Even your coach isn't complaining about the refereeing.

Its clear the Kings are a team that has gotten away before now strictly trying to outscore teams and it is no longer working because teams have figured out how to shut down lich who been the offensive leader most of the season.

What is more obvious.. the Kings coaching staff have defaulted back to their Tigers playing days of Run & Run!! But now with NO alley oops and NO DEFENSIVE strategy!

I noticed Randle wasn't substituted at his normal time 2mins to go in 3Q until 7/8 mins to left in the 4Q

Kings coaches should look at how joey subs his players in out, the kings have hit the wall as they basically play 7 players, joey gets them in one at a time.
Randle is the mvp of the league by a country mile and joey has shut all the knockers up.
Kings could miss the semis now unless they make adjustments, Lisch and newly need rest and powel looks small against them Adelaide bigs, they need Kazzoo back fast.

Where's the dud that said Drmic should start for Sobey?

@Isaac, I watched the replay again and yeah Garlepp made a shoving motion but Jacobsen was way outside the reach of Garlepp's hand. Unless that was some superpower telekinetic push that Tommy had, Jacobsen probably just slipped.

I think Matt Townsend called the pushing foul from the Kings baseline which means he must have X-ray vision. Chris Clark saw Townsend's arm raised for the foul and called it as well probably to back him up.

Please. Refs review a play, see its a bad call, can't change the call, but assign a tech foul when the player gets upset about it. Nice.

I agree with Isaac. He saw the Jacobsen reaction and made an assumption as to what happened. Just wrong unfortunately

Ergh. Blockquote fail.

Also on that Garlepp thing, obviously he didn't push Jacobsen, but he did appear to grab the singlet of another 36er. When you grab an oppositions singlet isn't that a foul anyway?

Obviously, swearing at the ref is a no-no. Garlepp needs to check his temper.

If only that was his one bad call. How many referee huddles have their been after one of his bad calls the past 2 home games? He's out of his depth.

Sydney looked tired.

People who continue to complain about the umpiring maybe should umpire themselves instead of mouthing off about the umpiring.

So anonymous if you never watched the game STFU about the absolute worst call made this season.
"People who continue to complain about the umpiring maybe should umpire themselves instead of mouthing off about the umpiring. FYI I did not watch the game."
People who have reff'd agree that is was a stupid call. If you do ref and see the replay please come back here and apologise.

The ref who made the Garlepp call should be immediately dropped.

Firstly, people who don't watch the game and have a modicum of understanding of the rules of the game shouldn't be commenting on others who do.

Secondly, the NBL is a struggling code that is competing for fans in this country. It has lost a significant portion of the fan base it had during its heyday. The ones who stayed, undoubtedly love it despite the failings and genuinely wish that it can not only survive but thrive.

You may get annoyed by the complaints about the officiating but it's just reflecting the disappointment and concern that genuine fans have for the well-being of the game. What was on show today was embarrassing and needed to be called out.

There is almost no accountability for the poor performance of these pathetic officials that have as much impact to the quality of the overall NBL product as the players, clubs and media. The horrible, amateurish level of officiating was not a one-off event either, at least 4 times this season and a major one last season that led to some rule changes. FYI, I assure you I'm not Mal Cooper in RL. ;p

Just another fantastic win, 7 in a row and well clear on top of the ladder now. Just a remarkable performance by this Sixers team.

The Sixers should be doing everything they can to lock Sobey into an extension asap before he hits the market at the end of the year. No way will he pick up his option now.

@673 great comment from the bathroom.

You are not at the game, didn't watch the game and therefore have no understanding on what everyone is talking about.

Initial call on Garlepp was not necessarily a foul however Deng does then knock into EJ, hence slowing him down. If Sydney ran a quick offence and the ball went to EJ's player open down the floor then Sixers would have been furious. So he made the call.

The Tech was unnessecary. He dropped the F bomb, big deal.. its a small crappy call in the biggest league in the country, accept an F Bomb in frustration that is on the floor. Not on the TV, not heard by the crows. Anyone who has spoken to Tom when he is on the floor knows he has no malleus even though is vocabulary can be colourful.

The mistake out of all of this. Tom never made contact with EJ, the contact was into Deng. Deng should have been the one on the foul line. We spent 70 seconds on Video tape to work out and then put the wrong player on the foul line.

The foul on a stationary screen set well and truly early was nothing more than a SHIT call. I don't even think it was a make up call. Wrong referee for a make up call, it was just a crap call by someone who probably shouldn't be out there.

Impressive resilient win from Sixers given the Kings would have been out for revenge on their home floor and having to overcome some favouritism from the refs.

Sobey unbelievably efficient from the field and some of his D on Lisch and rebounding was top class.

Not sure how you can't say the Sixers aren't deep as stated in earlier threads. 39 points off the bench. Admittedly 18 came from Creek who played an awesome game however everyone on the bench can come on and make great contributions. Dengi Fever with a timely contribution (how nice is his stroke)today and others off the bench have made serious contributions in previous games.

Cadee and Whittington can hold their heads up high for the Kings. Not sure why Gaze didn't play Maric much (at all?) in the 4th. He had 4 fouls but surely it was worth playing him for some minutes given how impressively he was rebounding earlier in the game.

Actually anon, if referees are going to make such a shocking bad call - and then immediately after make a shocking and obvious make-up call - they deserve to be called out. Simple as that.

People who continue to complain about the umpiring maybe should umpire themselves instead of mouthing off about the umpiring.

FYI I did not watch the game.

Some of the worst umpiring I've seen in a professional game. Hats off to Adelaide, but that Fitzy lookalike ref should never referee another game in his life. We've had him two home games in a row, and I wouldn't let him referee a game of HORSE in my driveway let alone a game of basketball. If the NBL wants the product to match the talent, they need to look at those guys with the appropriate word "Dodo" on their backs.

Sydney had to play catch up after The "Garlepp Incident".

I enjoy Tommy turning the ball over but I felt sorry for him on that occassion.

To win seven in a row in a season as close as this is a fairly remarkable achievement

Sixers officially the team to beat now. If Sobey and DJ can keep their forms they definitely can go all the way. Impressive display to stay in composure even when the refs tried to make up for their stuff-up, that's championship mettle. Happy for them but I was absolutely disgusted by the refs.

Sydney looked tired. This season games are being too closely packed in. Will go against older teams like Sydney.

Sydney deserved to lose that. If they put as much effort into playing as they put into arguing every call then maybe it would be daylight second. Good game from Adelaide. I'm no 36ers fan but gee I love watching Sobey play.

Well done to Adelaide. They're playing well and a good style to watch
Speaking as not just a butthurt losing fan but as a fan of the sport we really need to be asking questions about the continual shit the imposters with whistles keep dishing up in every game. It's a blight on the league. We'd serioüsly have better games if it was "call your own

4 of the Kings starters played over 33 minutes compared to 1 from Adelaide.
39 to 14 points in favour of Adelaide from bench players.

Sydney need a more even spread.

Anon..it is not embarrassing.

As i said before, the Kings are the most overrated team the NBL has seen.

Outside Lisch, the rest are a collection of rejects from overseas.

21/31 from the FT line and shit reffing is an embarrassment. Kings winning the last 2 of 7 is equally an embarrassment.
The ref who made the Garlepp call should be immediately dropped.

How much is Sydney going to spend on their next player?

3 from 3 against the kings

Wow Sixers, have the advantage on the Kings now so maybe they might make the finals.

Too soon to call I know but now Sixers fans can start to believe.