Hoops

Sixers vs Wildcats Dec 22

This season I've observed it's not necessarily home cooking - more like PER, SYD and MEL cooking, no matter where they play.

Hasn't helped any of them though.

ILL, CNS and ADL are constantly dudded with the ref's calls.

It's almost as though the NBL want the big boys to win...

KET those Wildcats fans who don't see home cooking in Perth obviously live in a fantasy land , it occurs in most sports all over the world.

The NBL's overtime period rules are different from fiba so what is the need to inforce 12 and uniform?

When is the NBL going to enforce the 12 players on the bench and the uniform code?

The funny thing about the Gleeson article is the comment regarding Prather getting 4 free throws and Randle 11. It really is just a throw away line trying to be scandalous.

Randle shot 4 of his 11 free throws inside the last 14 seconds when Perth were fouling. Another 2 came in the first quarter when Perth were in the bonus and Wroe got called for an off ball hold. So 6 of his 11 came from cheap Perth fouls.

Makes the count comparison 5 -4 ....Hardly referees applying "double standards" as is the allegation. More like sour grapes.

Controversial, yes, that too...

What we could focus on is that fact that an already tightly fought season is fast becoming an exceptionally entertaining one...

Vic Wildcat, that applies to Perth fans too though...not much complaining about home cooking in Perth but complaints when it happens elsewhere. Keep that in mind.

I'm not against holding refs accountable, i've made that point on many occasions here.

But let's be frank, is the Perth complaint about fairness, or is it more to do with being called for things they have gotten away with in the past but never should have in the first place?

There's little room for sympathy if you complain about being called for fouls when your game style is to try and get away with as much fouling behaviour as you can.

In regards to the joy in Perth losing, it's no different than the joy everyone took in Hawthorn losing in the AFL, it is the Australian way.

Last night Sixers were very average so what does that say about Perth, yet they managed to lift a gear in the last and get the win. Got bought back down to Perths level, very ugly. Watching the game the Sixers really struggled to get into any rhythm offensively, botching simple transition plays they have been creaming teams with in last 8 games. I guess it had something to do with Hire, Kenny, Grappling &co etc.
Can't believe we saw 3 flop calls in the game against Kings at home, yet not a single flop called last night, instead calling charges. That call is just becoming guesswork by the refs depending on the mood.
Apart from that 1 t/over mistake from Sobey his ball handling skills were superb. Man did I cringe when Teys lost the ball against Prather.

https://thewest.com.au/sport/basketball/wildcats-coach-fumes-at-refs-after-loss-ng-s-1649003

I challenge anyone to look at that link and conclude anything other than "Gleeson is a flog".

:)

Gleeson did acknowledge the ladder-leading Sixers (11-6), now riding and eight-game winning streak, as the league's benchmark in an otherwise congested table.

"They've got a good buffer," he said.

"Normally 14-15 (wins) gets you into the playoffs.

"They're playing at a good level and they're getting to the foul line a lot which is hard to defend."

Has dazz self distructed? Has he deactivated himself from hoops it's been 5 minutes already!

I find it interesting that home cooking with refs is a major topic for games played in Perth, but when a Wildcat fan points it out that it happens elsewhere, we are labelled poor losers. Seems to be a few double standards, around these parts.

In saying that no way the refs cost us last night, our terrible shooting, terrible passing and horrible free throw shooting cost us the game, nothing else, some of the passing was embarrassing, under 10's wouldn't pass that bad , i think in the 3rd Wroe threw three crap passes in a row in one play phase before the Sixers finally had mercy on him and decided to keep the ball. The simple facts are, we are playing poorly and rely too much on Prather, almost to the point where he can see that and is forcing the issue. He looks worn out.

In regards to the joy in Perth losing, it's no different than the joy everyone took in Hawthorn losing in the AFL, it is the Australian way.

Brunson FTW.

Wasn't a great game to watch, as expected. Good crowd turnout though, and the atmosphere got there in the end once we got a bit of freedom in the last quarter.

KET "#4
I think Perth fans are so desensitised to their side getting away with overt physicality that they feel screwed when it's rightly called against them. They've been getting away with it for years." Perfect! That is exactly how it is.

Gleeson is a moron "...we're just as aggressive and nothing gets done, then Casey gets pole-axed at the end." ummmm no your team shot 12 more 3's that doesn't sound like "Just as aggressive" to me. Perth also had 5 more turnovers. 6 to 8 of the Sixers foul shots came with Perth deliberately fouling.

"It seems they referee Randle differently than Casey," Really? I saw Randle drive and get bumped by Wagstaff in the 4th which was an obvious foul that wasn't called. I saw Randle go around the screen with Johnson hand checking him which was another foul in the 4th. I also saw Casey use his off arm to create space on Sobey to knock him down and then get the easy score. Casey was on 4 fouls at this stage and was a protective species that wasn't allowed to be fouled off.

There was poor calls for both teams. Perth decided to shoot 3's rather than drive it. Perth's culture of continuously complaining almost all calls (no matter how obvious it was the correct call) so less calls are made in the future brings the level of the game down as we saw last night. Perth also had 18 more free throws against Brisbane a few weeks ago in a loss which I didn't see them complain about.

Perth 26 3FGA 36ers 14FGA

If Perth attacked the rim as much as Adelaide maybe they would get more free throw attempts

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Dazz - Don't quote my post and alter it, I know you like to treat the English language very loosely (befitting of the general standard of your posts), but don't drag me down with you.

#2

Sydney 83 def Perth 72
Hawks 89 def Perth 85
Bullets 90 def Perth 75
36ers 92 def Perth 86
Perth 92 def Mel 89
NZ 69 def Perth 57
36ers 78 def Perth 74

Perth are 1-6 in their last 7 games.

So yeah saying they suck at the moment is an accurate description, if not an understatement. Stating the objective fact doesn't make someone a Perth hater.

#3
The 36ers, first on the ladder with 8 straight wins are more "shit" than the side who are last on the ladder and can't manage to get more than one win in a month?

Classic Dazz logic.

#4
I think Perth fans are so desensitised to their side getting away with overt physicality that they feel screwed when it's rightly called against them. They've been getting away with it for years.


I'm sure it will be fun to track Dazz as he goes through the stages of Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression & hopefully Acceptance.

And if TF Adelaide's imports had combined for more than 1 point they would've won too. This hypotheticals are a tad embarrassing for the wa mob. Please don't even bring up home cooking, that's like Kanye west being offended because a fellow rapper saying offensive things. Enjoy last, enjoy this losing, the fan base is more disliked than the actual cats... this forum and the likes of dazz, exhibit A.

Marvin wasn't happy at all. First 3 quarters was up and about. Standing around the huddle during the timeouts, patting players on the back, getting all involved etc.

Last five minutes just sat in his chair and wouldn't even look at the huddles during the timeouts.

At the same time, I question why the CEO is sitting right in the middle of the bench during the game.

And if Matt Knight shot the ball at 40% and not 10% Perth would have won

And if Perth made their free throws they would have won

Trev needs to look in the mirror

With new teams coming in soon Perth may need to get used to the cellar. The core 4 players that they have built success on are done and no replacements are in sight. Brandt plays 7 minutes when he was a hot recruit out of Sydney, that is on Trev

Is Dazz Gleeson?

https://thewest.com.au/sport/basketball/wildcats-coach-fumes-at-refs-after-loss-ng-s-1649003

His Perth team is done. They are only going through the motions.

Their structure and offence is so boring and old. You know where the non-threats are and it allows teams to enhance their D on the actual threats.

Perth will finish last at this rate and hopefully that means a major blow up at the end of the season.

A waste of prathers talent this season no doubt.

" when you're successful for a long time and have a bit of an arrogant fan base" + dickhead fans like dazz, you wonder why people despise Perth.
Enjoy the cellar.

This is getting better!

Dazz complaining about refs. A rusted on Perth Wildcats guy having a whinge about home cooking.

The referees were too obvious last night, with poor calls going against both teams. I expected better, especially Mayberry, he had some howlers.

That said, Perth played to their strengths and made it a dreary wrestle fest, one reason why the Sixers went to the line so frequently. Perth did a good job of preventing Adelaide from controlling the tempo and were able to frustrate some of the Sixer with their physically.

As others have noted, it wasn't a pretty game to watch with only an occasional highlight (mostly involving Jason/Jaron Johnson/Johannisen ;-) & Matty Knight's hustle).

And, on the wrong side of 30. Literally we have Wagstaff that could score and he can't hit the ocean this year.

Adelaide, just getting it done. Good luck to them playing with energy and are young team and are blowing away the big spending clubs.

Still Joey Wright is more of a flog than Gleeson, Perth fan's I'm first to admit it, be ready to cop some shit now until we make the playoffs again.

With the calls aside, Perth just seem to be going through the motions, season is cooked. Give Bragg, Dexter as much playing time.

Poor season thus far from the boy's, at least we can feel what other clubs go through in terms of having shite team.

Win or lose, still don't think they are playing with the effort and we come to expect. Deactivated, reactivated, Ingram in Ingram out Marvin needs to take responsibility, left Gleeson to look like shit.

For me Wagstaff this season would be lucky to make a team on a Sunday afternoon local club, Where did Gleeson think the team he had was a chance?

Prather, then? Even Johnson was consistently getting 20+ with Prather? That's 40, Mckay is good defensively, Martin and knight are injury prone

The cats were alright. Put Martin back in and they can pick up these wins where they're falling just a bit short. Problem is, they might be in too big of a hole by the time he's back

Oh Dazz, do you even watch the game or do you just pull out stats to try and justify your points?

10 free throws that I can think of just off the top of my head came from Wagstaff hacking Hodgson on an O board to stop him getting the easy put back (start of the 4th?), Wagstaff again clothes lining Drimic who now has one eye when Perf were in the bonus (around 3mins left?) and 6 free throws at the end to stop the clock...

Remember, there would be a 40-50 free throw differential for any team that plays Perf if NBL refs actually called the inordinate amount of scragging, mauling and holding that Perf have done forever and actually think is basketball...

2 of adelaides imports combined for 1 point and they still won. That's how bad Perth are.

But really in all reality and as a duty of care for a fellow human you should actually log off have a great Christmas, think about the cats and all the losses, and come back fresh for next season. Get to start a new 30ywar streak yay!

Dazzzzzz, log off buddy you've lost the plot. Your looking for victories in a 4 point loss. It got out to 10 in the 4th. So wasn't as close as you like to think in the end. I'm loving how you are completely off the meds and blowing up though. Please keep going, fantastic drama!

Dazz your team sucks at the moment

Dazz, to say adelaide is shit with a cherry on top that's just so sour. You are such a complete tool but fuck me kys wntertaining coming on here reading your tantrums because your Perth Wildcats are really really shit. I mean they are just the pits. Atleast they scored more than 23 in a half. It's a building process. Maybe you should reconvene redhage faking an injury.... oh wait.

Ugly game but a win, I thinks that's a good sign.

Dazz great to see Perth lose but even better to see you acting like a fuckwit. This season is going really well, now about yours?

Gleeson should have played Redhage earlier and for longer.

He seems to be a painful bogey man for the 36ers no matter how old and crappy he is against everyone else.

Brandt was not straight up. He was near the block then jumped to the side and ended up under the back board.

Game was what I was expecting with the Sixers being flat. We will take the win and move on to the Melbourne battle.

Dazz we like the Perth scrub players more then you.

There's no vendetta, when you're successful for a long time and have a bit of an arrogant fan base, you're not going to be given roses and chocolates

I hope Perth keeps losing just so I can keep reading Dazz's tanties.

Thought the cats might get up on this one. Credit to the 36ers, they are just getting it done right now.

Adelaide PEAKING half way through the tournament...Good luck with that

Adelaide played fairly average but great to see a win to close out 2016 and first on the ladder (prev was in 2001). 8 in a row, love it.

Randle didn't have a great game but who would know it scoring 20+. Sobey is huge for us.

Creek needs to stop giving away silly fouls, same as Hodgson. If Jacobsen doesn't concede 4 fouls a game then the apocalypse will happen.

36ers gave away far too many OBoards that was the one frustration really.

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Dazz your team sucks at the moment, and you've officially cracked it. As fun as it is watching you implode, just calm down the raging testosterone. Have a few deep breaths and give Hoops some breathing space for a few days over the Chrissy period.

Wow, doesn't take much for the fuckwits to crawl out from under their rocks.
Clearly some also have Alzheimers, or some other form of short-term memory loss. What happened to all your predictions of Perf sucking and a massive win by Adelaide???
Or, let me put it another way, if Perth are so completely shit, then Adelaide are Shit with a cherry on top.
Winning by 4 points, on the back of some delicious home cooking, aint nothing to get partying over.

It was good close game, and Perth actually led for good bits. But in the end, 4 points gets you the win.

Perth have actually been mostly reasonable on the road. Unfortunately a narrow loss is still a loss, and they are starting to stack up.

Perth DOMINATED the boards, that's got to be a worry for Joey. Knight & McKay had 20 between them. If only they could have added a couple more points.

And Wagstaff, dude needs to get his eyes fixed, or stop trying to shoot 3's.

Why is a 12 year old making multiple anonymous posts?

Perth are so unlikable from the head coach down.

* Damo and Knight excluded.

Perth went from the best to worst lool

Outside of Prather, Johnson, Johnson, Randle and Sobey no one on court scored more than 7.

36ers showing that if you have consistently good performances from your best players and not too many injuries, you don't need depth.

The Adelaide train keeps moving.

And Perth falls to 1-6 in away games. Feeling good about my prediction early in the season that they'd struggle on the road.