Hoops

Kings vs Breakers, Dec 30

Daylight:

A term related to proximity. Think of cricket, where there is a review to see whether a batsman has nicked the ball on a 'caught behind' appeal. When they see the replay you will hear the commentators say, "You can definitely see daylight between bat and ball", which translates to 'there is a noticeable gap between bat and ball'. Apply that to this forum and 'Sydney then daylight' means there is a noticeable gap between Sydney and the rest of the competition (with regard to talent). Of course, lately it has been used sarcastically because Sydney have been poop.

Didn't the breakers shoot like 50% from the line?
Coach killing!!!

Penney missed a few free throws as well.

Championship teams find ways to win ugly. And the Kings did this last night. Any team with a fit and firing Lisch & Newley are gonna be in with a shot when it's money time.

It still baffles me how any professional baller can shoot below 50% from the free throw line, dead set, Mitchell was great, but his FT shooting is simply not to a professional standard. Cost the breakers what shoulda been a well earned resiliant victory.

McDowell-White is supposed to be that defensive guard that may be able to score but he is an unknown and unproven 18 year old prospect. The NBL, particularly this season, is definitely a step up from SEABL, U-19s or Adidas/Nike camps where he is somewhat of a known quantity. He definitely has the talent and physical abilities to be successful in the NBL and beyond, but whether that would transpire during this short stint with the Kings, we will witness that soon I suppose.

T-Ferg is about the only NBL player that he's played against in that World Select vs. US Junior team in the Nike Hoop Summit earlier this year. T-Ferg was the standout while MDW had a mediocre game but that could be due to his team, so its not a reliable gauge.

It's a pity Gaze didn't have the confidence to sub him in tonight, his parents were in the game hoping to see his first NBL game. Gaze did say post-game that the game was too crucial for the Kings and he wanted MDW to have at least 2 practice sessions.

I still think the kings need a defensive guard that can also score, Lisch is a champion but is looking tired and needs help, Cadee divides opinions but an extra guard in the rotation would be more useful..

I actually think Jackson is a real good signing, because he gives us what Moller does (rebounding), with the addition of some pretty good post moves. Having said that, I think Moller might end up being a pretty darn good NBL player at some point.

Still don't understand Jackson signing, didn't do much and made a few mistakes. Garlepp got lift as well, feel for Hill and even Moller has shown a fair bit when given the chance. They had to sign an extra guard not a 4/3 man.

I didn't see when it happened, but Stockton injured himself 1st Q and didn't return.

Relieved to get the win, but we really didn't deserve that. The first 2-3 mins we ran the best offense we've run all season, and then went completely away from it for the rest of the game.

Stockton injured?

Great job Steve. Chokers Breakers as you are bro.
Final score Kings 85 - 80.

Breakers spudding their free throws was the difference

Carter is not very athletic fellas, let's kill that notion eh? He's just long

Kings then daylight

LOL

Now Carter travels

Terrible but entertaining somehow... its like a contest of who can do it worse...

Lets just call it a draw and move on

Neither team deserves to win this one.

Well Powell tried to blow it as well :)

Just too many boneheaded plays at the end here

Penney
Mitchell
Powell

NZ almost trying to blow this

Errr Henare's foot was in the court when he's trying to tell Penney not to foul... isn't that a tech?

Illie only got a 5 from the Russian judge :)

Kirk Penney's 95th 20 point game

Andrew Gaze had 554 20 point games

Carter looks decent out there. Any team who needs cadee to play a big role is not a contender

Horrible defence from the Kings

Delany has made some mistakes.. but that and1 dunk was all effort. Love that guy!

Carter puts NZB in front.

Top 4 commentary predictions

Rosen

Illawarra
Adelaide
Melbourne
Sydney

Champs: Melbourne
Bottom: Brisbane

Harvey

Illawarra
Adelaide
Sydney
Melbourne

Champs: Sydney
Bottom: Brisbane

Someone needs to tap Rosen on the shoulder, this game would be much better to listen to if it were just Harvey doing colour.

21 games now and Gaze's lack of experience as coach is starting to show. His substitution pattern needs to be overhauled to make sure that his best two-way lineup exploiting mismatches has the stamina to end each half if its a close game. He needs to learn from Bevo big time.

Brad Newley has very little shooting ability, which is why his game never transitioned to the NBA

Mitchell's FT barely touched the net

Penney still as hungry as ever

Kings was looking good and priming for a blowout and Gaze subbed in Garlepp ahead of Jackson... Tommy need to play defense and rebound otherwise Kings are just going to surrender leads after leads SMH.

RE: Cadee

As his father was involved with West Sydney/NBL (and probably others at some point?) any chance there's been a few helpful nudges to get him in the league?

Cadee's shooting 37.2% from the field this season and 31.7% on 3pts.

Cadee's shooting under 30% ? WOW.

Wasn't he be compared to Steph Curry at the start of the season? LOL.

I just realised how any Breakers are out injured... Kings to win 20+

Surely...

Talking about Cadee i don't know who is the bigger sook out of he and Jawai about asking for a foul cause they missed the basket

Cadee is the most overrated shit tard I've seen in the nbl in the last 15 years.. he is a paid professional basketball player, who is not really that good at anything consistently on the court.

Defense - woeful. Liability defensively.

Shooting - well his shooting sub 30% this season. So ill mark that down as woeful

Fundamentals- can't shoot off the dribble going right, would have to be the worst player I've seen finishing around the rim- he has missed 3 wide open layups this season alone.

Passing- decent passer off a pick n roll- of give him 6/10. Overall, court vision is SEABL level, at best.

Rebounding- well, he can't rebound.

Can someone remind me again what he is actually good at??? Don't say shoring please, because his shooting overall this season has been woeful- stats suggest he is in bottom 3 of starting guards.

I've said it many times- he is a back up guard at this level, who can provide you 10-12 mins of sub standard basketball.. every 10 games, he will hit 5 3s and everyone gets excited.

What ever happened to Tufta . Was that his name? Did he get replaced by Shae Ili.

Understand that they need to earn it, both teams had stacked and with the changes to both teams they are still stacked!

As much as I want Perth to be there, it doesn't get boring if you are not a supporter of the team always winning.

P.s don't count out Perth being there again, all depends on the import and damo coming back.

Sydney and Melbourne got earn there spots, not just expect them because of there population, in all of that the Nbl has been fantastic this season.

All teams have their strengths & weaknesses.

Just like Perth @cats 4 life : )
They need a Damien Martin!

Loving the key board warriors this season! Some people have no idea, loving how close the season is. Kings needs this at home, big factor is newly, you would think Sydney at home.

Sydney needs to be up there for the good of the nbl, both Sydney and Melbourne have to play finals for us to get better corporate and t.v. deals in the future.

That's pretty spot on @Anonymous!
Kings guards are susceptible to pull throughs & penetration when Cadee is on D. This breaks down their D & ends up drawing fouls on the bigs.

Is the new kid gonna get time tonight? Doesn't he need like 2 months to learn 'The Shuffle' ? : )

Cadee was great early, but now ALL the kings horses & all the kings men can't seem to put wins back together again : )

Lisch, Newley & Whittington all seem a bit burnt out.
I haven't looked at minute stats, but purely from observation it seems like the Kings overplay their stars while every other club is more strategic in resting and taking care of their superstars.

I want the Kings to win, but feel like the Breakers may spring an upset.

Cadee is doing ok


He needs to go back to his first 6/7 games and be doing a lot better than ok.