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Bryce Cotton signing confirmed

He certainly looks like the sort of SG the Wildcats need, but he seems to struggle at times without Martin running the point, which is understandable given how new he is.

His shooting percentages have been poor, but he's also been left holding the can late in the shot clock many times. I think it's too early to tell.

I like him so far. Expecting him to improve as the team does and as he gets more comfortable. I think he's definitely the missing piece we were after, we just need to get all our pieces together and playing well.

Even when he's not scoring the team looks 100 times better when he's on the court imo. Having someone like him to be able to carry the ball and make some plays happen, we look so much better.

he is just a shorter beal so far. one good shooting game and the rest meh.

But what's the overall impression so far?

He definitely looks to be a very capable PG, and the Cats often rely on him to bring the ball up. D seems decent, and will hopefully improve as he settles into the league.
So far he looks like he could have a real future in this league, if he wants it, and the money is right.

He has been very wasteful, especially from beyond the arc. Any opinions?
Is he possibly a bit fatigued, having a few weeks off, then coming in and playing big minutes??
Or is he just feeling pressure to take too many shots?

Overall, got to be happy with the points he's producing, and if he can improve his accuracy and/or shot selection, it could be awesome.

thanks for bumping an old thread to repeat things you had already said. you really added a lot to the conversation with that. totally worth it. we are all looking forward to another reminder in a couple of weeks.

Not sure why people get so upset?
Primarily, all I said was that we should wait till we actually see him play in the NBL before proclaiming him to be better than Ware & Randle. I personally think that's sage advice regarding any new player to the NBL.
And he's a PG, not an SG. Simple fact. Like most PG's in his category, he can also score, that's generally what NBL teams look for in an import PG, and its certainly what Perth needed.

I pointed out that Boti had mentioned a scouting report from previous coaches indicating he wasn't necessarily a 3-point gun. And for some reason that has enraged people?
Then they have defended their outrage, based on nothing.

Ironically, his 3-point shooting so far has been on average shit. But I'm hoping that will settle down. Again, all I'm saying is that we should wait and see, before proclaiming him the saviour of the Cats' despicable 3-point ability.

This could potentially change the NBL landscape just like Casper Ware's signing did for United.

If so, then it Sucks for Cairns and they have indeed been screwed- they have 3 more games vs Perth.

Perth is also lucky in that they have 11 games left, less than everyone else (Sydney has 7...). And their schedule has been sparse while Martin is out.

Be nice to your fan dazz, he is your only one

"As opposed to those on here claiming he's a SG, based purely off sniffing their own farts."

Sniffing my own farts? The cats press release states:

"Cotton is an exciting point guard with quality ball-handling skills and exceptional shooting ability.

He also has the capacity to play off the ball, meaning he’ll be able to carry the ball when required, or bolster the team’s scoring options as a shooting guard."

So yes PG is his primary position but he can play off the ball and use his shooting ability too as a SG.

Watch the film and check his stats they would appear to concur that this guy can shoot very well.

I questioned his ability to play SG on defence given his small stature and frame but that's why I commented it may be less of an issue if he's paired in the backcourt with Martin, who may be capable of checking SGs.

I'm a big fan of yours generally Daz but you've incorrectly insulted me there

The only option would be Dazz's GOAT Jermaine Dollar Beal

Martin will be back next week. Perth v Adelaide.

Notes from Presser

Bryce

Adjusting to timezone. Enjoying the weather.

Arrived on Sunday.

Learning the terminology and lingo.

Aware of the Wildcats history.

Up to speed with how the team is traveling.

Coach has told him to use his speed to his advantage. Use his instincts.

Cool to have Joe Ingles tweet him.

Right decision to come to Australia.

Weather's perfect, likes the coach and team.



Gleeson

Has had him in mind for two years.
Always on the radar. Fortunate to have him.

Win against the Hawks was big. Team played great. If they can play at that level the second half of the season will be fun.

League's the closest Gleeson has seen.

8 teams can make the playoffs.

Damo had his first practice. Not confirmed marto will be back yet. But hopeful. First time on court in 9 weeks.

Fingers crossed the Cats have a full strength team to pick from this weekend.

Wagstaff was fantastic last game. Glad he's hitting form at the right time

Ahh sorry mate, i must have missed that one

The Jazz video was, but not the video that was actually being discussed.

Dazz, maybe have a crack at footy

It was 2015 koberulz

Cotton & Gleeson press conference audio

https://audioboom.com/posts/5454259-bryce-cotton-s-first-press-conference-3-january-2017

It will be a great day for hoops when they discover a cure for the short-term memory loss so many are afflicted by.
(Although the cure for Cretinism has been known for a while, and that doesn't seem to have helped.)

WHERE have I been anything but positive about his signing?
All I have said is that we need to wait and see him play in the NBL BEFORE proclaiming that he's going to be as prolific as Ware and Randle.

As for "analysing" / "coaching" / whatever, as I clearly said, I am reading the scouting report from his actual coaches, published by a reputable journalist.
As opposed to those on here claiming he's a SG, based purely off sniffing their own farts.

If I posted the same shit a dozen times, but called myself "anonymous" does that make it stink less?

You can't jump and skip around in a game like that in a dunk contest or a training session.

I would wait until the games start this week to form an opinion.

Daz his skill set is one of a combo guard. He can shoot the heck out of it. Defence can he guard SG not sure but if you have Damien Martin he can play on them

Daz you don't have to worry about his three point shooting he is very good at that. He is quite small though so the question will be his ability to get inside and either finish or draw defenders in

Not another one who says 'correct'...

Correct, it was actually 8 years ago.

Perth Wilburs that wasn't 6 years ago, he's only 24.

Anyone Worried about him losing his hops needs to only look at this from 2015.

Nice jumping ability but really that was 6 years ago and he is much older now

Bryce Cotton tested out the Bendat Basketball Centre rims at his first practice. pic.twitter.com/ea5QuncH8w

— Perth Wildcats (@PerthWildcats) January 3, 2017

plus you can't jump like that in the NBL 95% of the time.

Perth wilburs i think you need to check out the video on the wildcats instagram page

Cotton is very explosive off two feet. Not so much off one.

Someone with his frame and size won't be using his vertical in traffic.

But all the NBL and Wildcats are showing are dunk highlights.

I'm more interested in seeing his shot creation off the dribble and dribble penetration.

I think Prather will benefit the most out of this and really enjoy playing with a dynamic PG/SG

So where are you currently coaching Dazz?

Nice jumping ability but really that was 6 years ago and he is much older now, plus you can't jump like that in the NBL 95% of the time.

Impressive hops!
https://youtu.be/EzIgozb1Fjg

JasonC

After a couple of games his attitude will change, typical dazz

funny that's what all the afl fans said to him right before he got on the nbl bandwagon

Maybe you need to find a new sport to analyze dazz

Cotton has a very small frame.
Probably why he gets over looked in the NBA.

Bryce Cotton was born and raised in Tucson, Arizona

How does he not strike you as a prolific scorer Dazz, you really come up with some rubbish mate

In a perfect world I assumed the would have gone for a SG, maybe a combo. Cotton seems to be very much a PG. According to the scouting report Boti unearthed, he's not expected to be a prolific 3-point shooter.
As I said, we'll have to wait and see how he goes in the NBL. Maybe playing the 2 spot he'll let rip and average 20ppg. :-)

Dazz how is it INTERESTING they've gone for another PG/SG.

It's exactly what they've been missing and exactly why they cut JJ

I love how the Cats always send out the email titled "Members First" then announce something everyone has known for a week.

I HOPE Cotton is the right fit. Interesting that they have gone for another PG. (Perhaps indicates Damo's recover is slower than expected?)
Have to wait and see how he goes in the NBL, but I think comparisons to Ware and Randle are premature, he doesn't strike me as a prolific scorer like those two.

Do i really need to explain what I'm implying?
When Gleeson announces someone as quickly become a crowd favorite they get left on the bench...

Cotton is not like ware or Randle. He's a better three point shooter

He is a crowd favourite, what does him being benched have anything to do with that?

Let's not forget Gleeson also said Bragg would become a crowd favorite then proceeded to leave him on the bench....

D martin will return this weekend

'I'm rubber, you're glue.'

How appropriate, you fight like a cow!

Cotton has a very small frame.

Probably why he gets over looked in the NBA.

This could be a low key massive signing for Perth.

Will be interesting to see how he gels with the team.

If he's a court general then other players will naturally improve.

I'm also in the PEN15 club

A few people in the PEN15 club here

Looking forward to seeing Cotton suit up aginst Melbourne!

I'm rubber, you're glue.