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Wildcats vs 36ers, Jan 14

Agreed Luuuc, Joey seems to take it pretty well in his stride.

I've noticed Australians have that tendency of evading personal space when trying to be overly friendly, this is probably an occasion.

The crude language stuff... it's disappointing there's always a few idiots who think it's acceptable to cause shit - you see it everywhere, in Adelaide, Melbourne etc.

The crude types need to be thrown out whether it's directly next to the opposition coach or even just in the crowd - basketball is intended to be a family outing. If you feel the need to make people uncomfortable or you just don't understand the concept of 'anti-social behaviour' then don't go to the game. These people think highly of themselves and they think they're funny - but they're the dumb thugs who nobody wants to be around.

I've sat near these types before and they're so incessant it ruins games.

I'm with Joey on this one. Players & staff should not have to put up with unsolicited contact. It appeared good-natured but it's still crossing the line. End of story.

seems dj and creek were pretty good
their numbers look similar to sobey and randle.
there are nblers cain't do those kinda numbers...

http://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/basketball/adelaide-coach-joey-wright-unhappy-with-perth-wildcats-fans-after-back-slap/news-story/c77bb685184151e36c6c84d96956c6e7

Joey is a flog

The reason behind Mitch Creek's shaved head, a friend of his had just been attacked and is in hospital with a fractured skull.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/adelaide-36ers-captain-mitch-creek-shaves-head-flies-home-early-from-perth-for-bedside-vigil-for-bashed-friend/news-story/f931256f9290118690518789dbc9da9d

Gleeson is an 8-year-old flog.

"I think we have established one thing: When Gleeson is genuinely aggrieved over a bad call you can tell because he uses his 8 year old boy voice.
That might be the funniest thing I have ever heard all season."


It might also be a useful reference point for the refs. Now they know which is his default flog voice and which is the voice that might actually be making a valid point and therefore worth listening to if their hearing range extends to that frequency.

Isaac - you're right. It was a huge win.

It's quite amazing that for a team so young (and relatively inexperienced) - Sobey, Creek, Ferguson, Hodgson, Drmic, Deng - they were able to sustain the pressure in that kind of environment and come up with the W.

The only other team I have really seen being able to do that over there was the Breakers in 2011/2012/2013, but even then they had some unbelievably experienced/veteran heads like Vukona, Braswell, Henare, Boucher, Penney, etc.

"should be out of bounds"

Unfortunately the refs wouldn't be able to determine who it came from, as evidenced by the play in question.

Calling into question the integrity, experience or competence of an individual referee should be out of bounds - and Gleeson did all three in one sequence - directly to one of the senior referees with no call!

One thing I want to know is.....if Gleeson got an official warning from the refs early in the game, how in hell didn't he get at least one tech foul for his antics in the 2nd half?

At least Joey Wright appeared to tone down a bit after his warning, but Gleeson was carrying on like a prized idiot.

Even in the NBL I have seen coaches tech fouled for a lot less than Gleeson or even Wright were doing on Saturday night.

More seriously, that was a really powerful win by the 36ers. Early on, they looked daunted by the crowd and disrupted by Martin. Johnson was the only one with anything going until Creek came in to assist. I'd bet on Perth and was expecting a miserable blow out.

To go into that venue and then reel off a 20-2 run against a powerful and confident opponent is quite stunning. The squad seem really united. Joey Wright should be given Coach of the Year now - no point waiting.

Maybe they'll come undone during the finals, but if they can lock in home court advantage and stay tight, they look more legit with every game.

But I still have no idea how they're doing it!

I think we have established one thing: When Gleeson is genuinely aggrieved over a bad call you can tell because he uses his 8 year old boy voice.

That might be the funniest thing I have ever heard all season. Thanks for posting it in all its glory above koberulz!

Haha cheeky Isaac

Thankfully the 36ers had such a comfortable win that no single bad call decided the game. Maybe when Perth get the new import in, Martin back and then have the strength of a home crowd behind them they'll have more luck?

Whilst other coaches tend to argue on wrong/partly-wrong calls; Gleeson argues and complains on calls which are correct and clear as day.

I remember in the game on Saturday; Kenny fouled a guy on the baseline, Gleeson threw his fist in the air and started blowing up. Kenny told Gleeson to pipe it 'I fouled him'.

Perth have very sneaky ways of defending in which sometimes it can look like they don't foul, when they really do (not hating on the Cats; it's actually smart defence). But they try to make it look like they have their hands up, whilst at the same time 'bodying' up; or they'll use a hand on the body etc (Hire, Knight, Wagstaff, Martin all very good at doing this). Gleeson needs to understand this.

Luuuc, people like you are here so we know there's reasonable and rational Perth fans ;)

I'm guessing maybe a lot of the fighting and ref stuff is due to the fact the season is so tight. If you lose or win big or you're pretty set in the ladder, the refs aren't targeted as much because it's just simply less important.

Even the people arguing it was inconclusive need their eyes checked, but I can at least understand that argument.

It's not anywhere near as blatant as I thought it was watching it live and seeing the replay on the big screen, but it was still clearly the wrong call.

All thread is now lacking is some people to whinge about the people whinging about the Adelaide fans that whinge about what big whingers the Perth fans are. I don't think it should go unsaid how annoying those whingers are.
(I'd kick it off myself, but as I'm a Perth fan that would result in a loop that could suck the entire message board into its vortex)

I'm not sure why they keep trying to get people to go to games, TBH. I think every time we've set an attendance record we've lost.

This riled up behaviour by the raging reds, I give it one week until we see "crooked Joey" and "Jail Sobey" protests.

Of course it seems to be common place here to give one call a full investigation and miss the broader being made.

For the Perth fans though, I am genuinely interested - perhaps in a different discussion thread, to find out what the Perth fan gets to experience in terms of how much marketing of the Wildcats they come across in every day life, the amount of discussion with the average Joe about your team, the familiarity by the average Joe towards the Wildcats, the buzz, the accessibility to their team, the game day experience and the atmosphere during games and so on.

What outside of the Court are the things Perth fans get to experience which perhaps others like 36ers fans don't get to. Where can other clubs look to the Wildcats to improve.

If you're getting 13,000 to a Thursday night game and regular 10k crowds - you're doing something right.

But pls don't complain to me about Adelaide fans, I have a pair of slaggs behind me who have no idea, mostly get the calls wrong

It was one play, yet it got a full-on investigation.

Yep, got it. Perths fault again. My bad. Let me know when you've shifted the goalposts back and I'll see if I get it right next time.

So build a bridge and get over it. This little episode basically shows why so many posters have issues with some Perth fans.

It was one play, yet it got a full-on investigation.

Because that was the example used by a Sixers fan to prove he was not just a whinger, but a whinger when he is in the wrong.

Haha I get it, he was right to complain there.

What I don't get is trying to say he's not really a complainer, which seems to be what a couple people are trying to do.

Yes Joey complains, but Gleeson is the #1 in that department. Saying "yeah but" is disingenuous.

Wildcats fans are hilarious.

Absolute sooks. Your team is shit boys, just let it go.

Wawa refs this, Joey that.

How about your team gets a f kn rebound, and shoots above 20% for 3 and you might win a game.

Hope you miss the playoffs.

"What explains the other 39 minutes of game then?"


Paging ROFLcopter to the thread

So he had a reason to complain on this one call. What explains the other 39 minutes of game then?

Losing sight of the forest for the one tree.

So Adelaide fans complain about Gleeson reacting to am obvious incorrect call, its proved that Gleeson was right, so Adelaide fans complain about Perth fans talking about that call... I thought you guys were meant to be knowledgeable.

Very Old, you need to have a cuppa tea, a Bex, and a good lay down.

This whole storm in a tea-cup was started by 6's fans, as usual needing to have SOMETHING to whinge about, even though they won and the fouls favoured them. Unoriginally, they decided to jump on the ole "Gleeson Whinges Too much" bus.
All that has been pointed out is that this was a mind-bogglingly incompetent call, and that (for once) Trev was justified in carrying on.

But of course, as per usual, some people just can never admit they're wrong, and have to keep banging on. Then when they are proven wrong, start throwing hissy fits, and still trying to point the finger back on Perth fans.

If Wagstaff had not been so genuinely concerned for Sobey's welfare and grabbed Sobey to hold him up, Sobey would have flopped and possibly gotten hurt when Wagstaff accidentally stepped on him.

" ANON -re: Wildcats vs 36ers, Jan 14

Gee that video showed something I missed and it wasn't the deflection off wagstaff which you clearly see a jerk if his elbow as the ball brush his finger tips.... Wagstaff is lucky he didn't get a tech for the two handed chest push on Sobey. "


Nah , it was just Sobey setting him up for a flop, you can clearly see Sobey grab Wagstaff's elbows and force Wagstaff's arms and hands into his own chest, should have been an T on Sobey , shots to Perth at the other end.

Oh , and the NBL needs to arrange for PTSD assessments and treatment plans for all Perth fans who attended the game.

Gee that video showed something I missed and it wasn't the deflection off wagstaff which you clearly see a jerk if his elbow as the ball brush his finger tips.... Wagstaff is lucky he didn't get a tech for the two handed chest push on Sobey. Regardles of the call thats worth shutting up about and not bringing it to the NBL and refs attention... They'll be hard on him next round if you do.

yep OK, thets say that its 95% that the ball went off Sobey,that clearly cost perth the game.

we need to have the result cancelled, the referees all banned for life, the full game points award to Perth and an additional 2 points to get them into the finals, as an apology to Trev so its not him that breaks the streak.

We also need to award Perth them the game series against Adelaide, and promise that if they get scheduled against Adelaide during the finals, the first Adelaide home game will be forfeited to Perth and any pre-paid ticket revenue for that game passed on to them.

Only thus will justice be served.

If the 36ers can beat the Hawks on the 28th of January there would of have beaten every team on there home court.

The fact that Adelaide weathered the storm away from home in a venue like Perth was the most impressive part for me. Earlier in the season, or in previous seasons, Adelaide would've been blown out. The composure is going to be important if they are too seriously challenge when the finals heat up.

Ever since a thread questioning some aspects of Joey as coach came up, Adelaide have really turned it around. Defensively they are not just better but way more consistent. You have to be able to defend in this league and i think Joey realises that. Credit to him and the players for what they've done.

If you think this didn't come off Sobey, you need your head examined.

I wonder if Brandt was crook? I noticed early on he seemed to be struggling, hanging his head like he was exhausted.

I thought Dexter was under-utilised as well. He can make an impact quickly so you have to at least give him a fair chance each game.

Brandt has been a legit inside target in recent weeks. Last night unfortunately his hook shot was uncharacteristically off-target, then due to bad offence he ended up taking some medium range j's (not his forte), and then in the 2nd half we never really went back to him, which was strange/silly. I don't care if he misses some shots if they're the type he normally nails. It's like telling Penney to stop taking threes if he misses his first few.

What a Joke, 6's fans complaining about a Whinging coach!?!
Where I sit, I've got a really good view of the opposition bench and coach. Joey literally never shuts up. Sometimes he's applauding/ encouraging, but mostly he is whinging either at his team or at the refs. Even when basically nothing questionable has happened, Joey is still going off his nut.

End of the day, it all adds to the theatre. And end of the night, Joey was the one smiling. He must be doing something right.

Haha. Don't forget Adelaide have made a lot of teams look silly over the past two months. They are playing incredible basketball.

Perth are only going to get better as Martin gets fitter and Cotton finds his feet. He's been 11/33 the past two games after his hot start.

Where are the Perth layups? Too many jump shots amounted to nothing.

Matty is too far from the post....soon as he dribbled, he turned it over.

The opposition offense is getting rebounds....Too easy. Something is very wrong the way Wildcats played. I hope this turns around else I will be barracking Melbourne next year!!!

Perth need to get the ball inside to Knight, even if just to use his passing ability. How many post catches did he have in this game, two or three? Having said that, making Cairns defend on-balls is a recipe for success so I expect they'll go with plenty of that tomorrow night.

Perth just don't have an inside target. McKay is not it and Knight is well past his best. Offseason target needs to be a legit post target. Perth's offence is just not to go with the best offensive team like the 6ers.

They are probably second best in the comp, but I think the title is the 6ers this season. Perth needs to clean house but given the just gave Hire(not good enough )a new extension along with Wagstaff it will be tough.

Was nowhere near the worst officiating we have seen, not even recently and not by a lot. That is why this thread smacks of 'protesting too much' by Perth fans.

Some bad calls, both ways, and some apparent make up calls. Not sure it could even be said on balance that Perth were hard done by.

Gleeson influences the Perth crowd a lot by his histrionics which are so often completely unjustified that you can't trust his reaction to any situation.

Thanks Bid Ads and Uncle Phil - walked out of the stadium a very happy man. It's very rare to see the Sixers win in Perth and I've been on the end of a lot of pain at that Arena amongst 13K plus Wildcats fans. So you have to cherish these wins when they happen. The Wildcats fans around our area were generally very respectful and many shook our hands congratulated us when they knew the game was over.

Great to see the Chairman of the Boards in the house too with the fans on the Supporters Trip. Also got to chat with Joey and the team after the game which was very cool.

Wildcats really should have put the Sixers away being up by 16 in the second qtr but their offence isn't good enough. Offensive rebounds and free throws kept the Sixers in the game and then JR, Sobey and Creek were clutch when it mattered. Gotta say I'm becoming a big fan of Drmic too - he's a feisty pest but very quick especially on the fast break. And a very good rebounder for his size too.