Hoops

Bryce Cotton offered 10-Day NBA Contract

No, Cotton's day 10 contract offer would be more like $55k - $60k having regard to his 2 odd years experience in the NBA.

If he signs around the time of the ASG for example he could get 13 or 14 days (on a 10 day) or because the team may have only had him for 3 games could easily extend out to 20, hence $55-$60k could easily become $70k or $120k; with the potential to earn the minimum $980k next season.

The $28k odd range is for a rookie.

"You don't need a clearance form the NBA to play in the NBL you need FIBA approval to play in the NBL, 2 very different things"

Fundingsland, please stop just making things up, the NBA work within the FIBA transfer system.

Here are the BA guidelines that explicitly state NBA players require a clearance.

http://websites.sportstg.com/get_file.cgi?id=3511034

Here is the link to the USAB clearance form from the NBA website.

http://www.nba.com/media/usab/letter_of_clearance.pdf

No, its not relevant.
Obviously he'd get paid for it, so what.

What's the NBA minimum for a full year contract? IIRC its around half a mil for a rookie, around $900k after 1 year? That's where the big cheese is at, and it only gets better from there if he establishes himself.

Reality is you'd take a 10-day contract for NOTHING if you thought it would lead to something bigger.

Keep in mind that Cotton has already played NBA. He knows how it works.

My understanding is that a given team can only give you 2 10-day contracts, and after that has to sign you or let you go. So maybe he preferred the "bird in the hand" so to speak?

Or maybe the Cats just said no?

Actually you can if you work in the mines. One of my mates was a site supervisor and he would make 45 grand a month before tax offcourse

The money is incredibly relevant.

NBA 10 day contract offers will fetch anywhere between $20-$30k.

You don't make that kind of quick money in such a short turnaround anywhere.

I don't think the money offered for the 10-day contract is relevant. Its about the opportunity. You'd hope it leads to another, then another, then an actual contract.

I really hope there's still openings for him when the Cats' season is finished.
And I hope this inspires him to new levels.

Probably even less anon a 10 dayer would be worth around $18k tops. On the road you also get a per diem of around $120 a day.

It's more about the opportunity because one 10 dayer usually leads to a second 10 dayer and then from there a contract for the rest of the season often with an option for next season.

Of course it was Perth's decision. Cotton seems to be enjoying his NBL stint but his association with the club is less than a month and he wouldn't let that stand in the way of pursuing his dream.

But nothing wrong with Perth requesting that he stay - both sides knew what the circumstances were when he signed.

As for the contractual questions. Sure, I guess an import could just walk away, breech his contract, and hop a plane home. It would mean never returning to the NBL, and would make it extremely difficult to play anywhere else requiring a FIBA clearance. Even IF the USA overlooks such things, it wouldn't be a smart move for somebody in his situation who is much more likely to play in Europe than the NBA.

As for claiming the NBA will "black list" him, why?
It's true he might not get another offer just depends. If they still like what they see at the end of the season, and they have an opportunity, why not.

It's funny, IIRC Ricky Grace once got a 10-day contract (or whatever the equivalent was back then) with the Hawks.

End of the day he's staying, and I guess we'll never know the full truth. Articles' titles say he chose to stay, Gleeson seemed to suggest they didn't let him leave.

Honestly, for the money he would get, it's not worth the trip back for just a guarantee of 10 days.

Gleeson said if it was a long term contract they would've let him go but not for 10 days when you can still get that after the NBL season finishes

Honestly, for the money he would get, it's not worth the trip back for just a guarantee of 10 days. Not surprised at all that he turned it down. Better to try in the offseason because you have enough time to latch on elsewhere if you don't make the cut.

Who was the guy early in the season saying that no one would play in the NBL if they were good enough to play in the NBA?

I'd be interested in getting his take on all this.

Good onya Jumbo. LOL loL Lol

NBA !!! LOL LOL LOL, thats pretty funny. How can an NBA side want him? He not even close to the best guard in the NBL

Regardless of which side of this particular argument is correct, contract law is still a thing.

Nonsense

American agents cant even have their players sign in Australia without gaining or working with someone who has FIBA accreditation

There is no contractual link between FIBA and the NBA and those that have FIBA contracts are not recognised by USA Basketball and vice versa

You don't need a clearance form the NBA to play in the NBL you need FIBA approval to play in the NBL, 2 very different things

You can choose what you want to believe Fundingland.

Both Webster and Khazzouh had to be released from their NBL contracts and given clearance before they could even take part in veterans camp. After they were cut by their NBA clubs they then received clearances and signed new contracts with NZ and Sydney.

His staying! Still in with a shot!

Paul that isn't correct

Would be funny if they don't allow him to go contract aside and he cracks it and plays poorly regardless.

How is this even a discussion?

Perth clearly have him in a secure contract with no out clause.

Saying Perth are doing him dirty by not allowing him to go is ludicrous. Its business. End of story.

The reality is he will still have plenty of time to be offered a meager 10 day contract after the conclusion of the NBL season.

My sources tell me he's been called up by the Cavs. If you're aware of LBJ's latest media statements you can piece the rest together.

NBL will make a statement soon.

"If he did want to go though, it would be a bit of a douche move by Perth not to allow him, IMO, and could affect their ability to lure fringe NBA talent in the future."

Not at all. Players and their agents understand that most clubs around the world won't let them out of a contract unless they get payment to do so, and/or unless they have an equal or better replacement available.

"Doesn't mean that a FIBA contract is honoured or acknowledged by the NBA."

Yes it does. An NBL player can't even train with an NBA club unless they have a clearance, as was the case with Julian Khazzouh and Corey Webster in recent years.

If he doesn't take it he will get black balled by the NBA and they will move on to the next

If he did get offered a 10-day contract, I wonder if he'd take it. If you're in the NBDL on peanuts hoping for the call-up, sure. But he's in a professional league earning big bucks so flying back to play a couple of games and hope to latch on would depend entirely on how big his NBA dream is.

If he did want to go though, it would be a bit of a douche move by Perth not to allow him, IMO, and could affect their ability to lure fringe NBA talent in the future.

Doesn't mean that a FIBA contract is honoured or acknowledged by the NBA

"NBA is not aligned with FIBA."

Mark Tatum, the NBA's deputy commissioner, is on the FIBA Executive. The NBA and FIBA are more closely aligned than ever.

Dazz on the defensive like a fat guy protecting his pie!

I dont think any professional team would hire someone who deliberately tanked a game. "Mental reasons" is also not something you want on your resume.

Small world now with the internet, his best bet is to keep playing hard. He has a chance to be leading scorer as well. Taking cats from bottom to playoff would be a better resume point for another NBA shot.

NBA is not aligned with FIBA. Cotton's contract would only be enforceable if he was going to a FIBA league. Perth cant make him stay.

He can also chose to say I will miss every shot and throw the ball away every chance I get if you don't release me.

Cotton should return home for 'personal reasons' like every other american.

His personal reasons would be wanting to play in the NBA.

As is the case most places around the world, if the NBA team wants to get Cotton out of his contract they'll have to pay for it, and even then I imagine it would have to be a very, very generous offer for Perth to basically sacrifice a playoff spot for it.

I just can't see it happening.

Anyone want to consider how Cotton leaving may impact his reputation? Would many teams (Europe esp) want to hire a player that would leave right before the playoffs and when the team is unable to replace him?

Chances are a successful playoff run with Perth could lead to more NBA offers.

Did the Ten news story report that bit?

It's part of his contract that he can't leave so really its a non story

Fucking great

Which NBA team is it?

If Cotton goes, can he be replaced with another import?

Anyone they brought in now won't be playing finals basketball.

Dazz on the defensive like a fat guy protecting his pie! You bring heavy rebuttals on yourself Dazz. It's the NBA champ, every league wants a good rep with them
Not the other way around. The basketball world doesn't and never revolve around the cats.

Players need 8 games in the regular season to be eligible for the finals, hence cairns rushing tony Mitchell into the Perth game despite arriving in Australia earlier that day. Anyone they brought in now won't be playing finals basketball.

Lucas Walker, now's your chance Bro!

I just find this situation a bit too difficult to believe. Firstly an import not having an NBA out clause.

If that is true and given the guy has already played for three teams in the NBA then his agent should be sacked immediately.

Secondly as if an NBL team even Perth would stand in the way of a guy getting a call up to the NBA. Like others have said the damage that would do to that team's reputation and the NBL in general I couldn't see LK allowing that to go on,

especially after the other crap the Wildcats have gotten up to this season.

If Cotton goes, can he be replaced with another import? It would seem unfair on Perth if they've paid Cotton a lot of money, will miss finals and receive no compensation in the way of money or replacement.

Beal back to Perth?

It would be very Perth to not allow him out of his nbl contract to folllow his dream. Fuckin pathetic

What NBA team would possibly care about the nbl!? Nor should they for the money they are generating Dazz, you idiot

I'd be embarrassed if my team got the bad rep for not allowing guys to go to the NBA. Big picture? Don't piss off the NBA or get a bad rep for the entire league over a maybe if making the playoffs.

Question is will he crack it if he's not allowed to leave and put up shit for the next 3 weeks? Seems like a pretty good dude but not how I'd react if I was in his position..

Ennis had something in place where he was locked in after a certain date. That date was determined so Perth could still have time to replace him and qualify for the finals.
No doubt Perth had something in place that was similar and I have absolutely no problem with that. If he has signed for Perth and that was the condition than why should the club be disadvantaged.

Pretty sure there may be a clause that once the 75% has passed then there's no out. Same thing with Ennis. Makes sense since the team has no alternative for a replacement