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Anonymous
Years ago

Should Knight retire?

"Matt Knight has been a warrior for the Wildcats, claiming his third championship ring on Sunday.

Perth Wildcats veteran Matt Knight is preparing for retirement after being forced to sit out yesterday’s championship-winning game against Illawarra because of concussion.

Knight will fly to Melbourne for tests with a neuropsychologist to determine whether he is risking his health by continuing to play."

https://thewest.com.au/sport/basketball/knight-set-to-call-it-a-day-over-health-risk-ng-b88405999z

Anonymous
Years ago

I saw that later on replay, definitely friendly fire from Prather.

Didn't look like much, he didn't go down, then suddenly he's staggering all over.

Would be great if the Wildcats could win on their home court (without him) and he could be the first to cut the net.

"This definitely seems like the right spot to discuss, as surely this has to be the final straw for him? It's not like the connections between head injuries and problems later in life are a myth, and the possibilities of suffering long term damage are pretty high..."

That was my thinking
I don't want to be accused of premature speculation, but he copped a whack that anyone else would have ignored, and suddenly he s punch drunk.

Commentator said he collapsed in the walk to the rooms and 3 blokes had to carry him. Not good.

Anonymous
Years ago

"Questions should also be asked about why he played the first two games, given he should have been suspended."

hahahahahahaha oh boy, still a bit salty Wilson?

Years ago

This definitely seems like the right spot to discuss, as surely this has to be the final straw for him? It's not like the connections between head injuries and problems later in life are a myth, and the possibilities of suffering long term damage are pretty high...

Would be nice to have him go out on a high on his home court with a championship though...

Years ago

He must have a seriously messed up squash. The contact from Prathers finger appeared unbelievably minor.

For his sake I hope he does announce his retirement and get his send off with Flophage when they win a championship in game 3.

Years ago

"He should announce his retirement from the sidelines on Sunday when he won't be playing. If he is playing questions need to be asked why."

Questions should also be asked about why he played the first two games, given he should have been suspended.

Years ago

PH, looked like Prather's fingers?! Worrying moment.

Years ago

He should announce his retirement from the sidelines on Sunday when he won't be playing. If he is playing questions need to be asked why.

Anonymous
Years ago

I think he should retire, I just don't think he can go on anymore. Needs to think of his future health, that many knocks to the head can be extremely dangerous.

If he's thinking of it, I really hope he announces it over the next few days. Then he can potentially get a proper send off from the Perth fans on Sunday, with a Championship and bow out with Redhage.

Anonymous
Years ago

Just seemed like the most appropriate place to discuss his injury.

If it was Dazz he would have started another thread

Years ago

100% def.

Anonymous
Years ago

Is that it?

How can he continue?

Did not exactly see what happened, actually looked like it was the ball, but I'm assuming it was an elbow, either Coenrad coming through, or a Wildcats teammate.

Did not look like a massive blow, and he was out on his feet.

Have to say, credit to the Hawks fans, those near the Wildcats bench stood and clapped him off.

Years ago

#thethingsyoulearn

Years ago

Didn't know you could merely "shrug off" a concussion until now.

Years ago

I think Ralph Malph was rostered on that night

Years ago

Dazz clearly to many concussions which is what you keep posting.(Mod: Removed. Unnecessary.) Do some real research and please don't quote last century stuff. Doctor Google can be your friend if you know what you are researching. Try SCAT3. Or better.
Look up the AFL rules or the NRL rules for concussion.
Dazzed said "He hit his head earlier this season, but just shrugged it off" yet no comment from you about how that process could happen in the illustrious Wildcats system. Did Pottsy examine him? 1000% I bet he didn't.

Years ago

Perhaps what you are trying to allude to, is that in modern sporting practice, any concussion is treated as serious for the purpose of determining return to play (rather than previous systems of using either a 3 step grading, or the later simple/complex.)

But that's NOT what this thread is about.

Years ago
This just shows you how much of an idiot you are Dazz. Getting up and shrugging it off doesn't mean he is OK.
Wow, talk about "going the full retard." Can we assume your expertise on brain damage comes from personal experience?

Not only did I never say "Getting up and shrugging it off" was ok,
I actually mentioned it specifically in the context of every bump potentially contributing.

I repeat again there is no such thing as a mild concussion.
Yeah, nice try, but you can't "repeat" what you didn't say.
Since you apparently also have short-term memory loss, I'll help you out.
There is no such thing as a mild of serious concussion
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you meant to say "or" but either way you're wrong.
According to an article on "Concussion and mild head injury", there are"At least 41 systems measure the severity, or grade, of a mild head injury"
Years ago

This just shows you how much of an idiot you are Dazz. Getting up and shrugging it off doesn't mean he is OK. A medical assessment needs to be provided depending on the situation.
If the head / brain is rattled around then it should be tested. I repeat again there is no such thing as a mild concussion. It is either a concussion or it isn't. Those are the rules.
Perhaps we could mic up the medical staff?

Years ago
There is no such thing as a mild of serious concussion
of course there is. a Single blow to the head could bee anything from nothing, to fatal, or anywhere in between.

And clearly, they DO add up, or it wouldn't be an issue.
Anonymous
Years ago

Great game today by Knight when needed

Anonymous
Years ago

I agree with Luuuc.

Years ago

^ excellent points on both sides there

Anonymous
Years ago

They never said that.

Years ago

nah screw the doctors opinion and matty's opinion we are in a much better position to speculate

Years ago

"wondrously"

WTF is that?

Years ago
"He hit head earlier in the season and shrugged it off" That simply shows that the medical staff aren't doing their job.
no, it was simply not as severe.
But as I said, its possible they all add up.

I'm no medical expert, but I certainly don't underestimate the effect of repeated knocks to the head, that's the whole reason for this thread.

The head is hard, but the brain is the most wondrously complex organ in the body, and I don't imagine it takes much to cause damage. As I said, I don't want to read in ten years time that Matty is suffering ill effects.

Funny as it sounds when we talk about an athlete nearing the end of their career, he is actually a young man with most of his life ahead of him.

Gotta be honest, as a fan I hope he's "well enough to play" tonight. But what does that mean?
If the doctors say that he's now risking permanent damage, I'd rather he retires immediately.

Most athletes end up with some little niggling injuries, dodgy knees, or whatever. But the brain is too important to risk that kind of outcome.
Years ago

It will take a grater effort to get more zest from Matty

Years ago

Knight's zest is still there but his shots are not justifying his place in the team.

Hopefully tonight will see some old fire coming back, and change people's confidence that all is not lost.

Years ago

"Seriously? You think Knight doesn't deserve a say in his own future? WTF?"
It's should never be in the players hands Dazz.
"He hit head earlier in the season and shrugged it off" That simply shows that the medical staff aren't doing their job.
Objectivity goes out the door when the player is left to decide.
If you want to learn about the seriousness of concussion have a read here.
http://sma.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/SMA-Position-Statement_Concussion-190815.pdf

Years ago

I think the part of having a say in it might have been the assumption that Knight is too far past the point of actually having a choice and SHOULD retire for his own health?

It's disappointing to think about, but with the injuries and the chance of it getting worse I'm pretty sure Matty will have a long hard think about it over the off season and make the right call... Having a young family really puts that sort of thing into perspective...

Years ago
He should retire but the way Dazz comments is as though he deserves an actual say. The man is a walking concussion sadly the damage for later on most probably has already been done
Seriously? You think Knight doesn't deserve a say in his own future?
WTF?
Anonymous
Years ago

He should retire but the way Dazz comments is as though he deserves an actual say. The man is a walking concussion sadly the damage for later on most probably has already been done.

Anonymous
Years ago

Dunno- maybe.

These are the questions they'll be looking at though- how many serious concussions, mild concussions etc. Those are the sorts of questions being thrown around when these discussions have come up involving footy players, like Johnathon Brown for instance. These things generally get worse with time. A future concussion is more likely to cause issues for Knight if he's had concussions previously.

Years ago

It might not even be just diagnosed concussions? He hit his head earlier this season, but just shrugged it off. Does it all add up?

Anonymous
Years ago

Approx how many concussions has Knight suffered during his NBL career? And how many in the past season or two?

Years ago

Ignore the anontrolls, Dazz. It's a good question. There are all too many blokes (for the most part) who've stayed too long in a sport and done themselves serious long term damage. Just look at Mundine. If he'd left rugby league at 15, he might have some semblance of intelligence.

All jokes aside, Knight has been a great player for a long time. He's arguably the best Aussie PF of the last ten years. Quite apart from his injury concerns, would he want to play another year and stand around like a deer in the headlights a la Flophage this year?

Anonymous
Years ago

Haha Dazz definitely risks himself for our entertainment! I dont know dazz, guess best to leave this sort of thing to the professionals rather than the opinion of someone who has less than no clue.

Anonymous
Years ago

I wouldn't say I'm expecting him to or that he should, but definitely wouldn't be surprised if he does. He's getting up there in age now (even though age wise he could go a bit longer). Had plenty of serious injuries over the years and needs to think long term about his health. Some games this year he seems a bit cooked and just not his usual self.

Would love the cats to go after someone like Motum if we did lose Knight.

Years ago

Yes. Based on his career of injury history alone for sure.
The concussion thing with him is a ticking time bomb. Get out while you can and hopefully the long term impacts of CTE won't affect Knight.

Anonymous
Years ago

Dazz risks himself for our entertainment

Years ago

Classic Dazz thread! Love it.

Years ago

Mee meee, mee meee meeee mee meeeee meeeeee.
Surely I am not the only person who thinks there is a scary resemblence.

 

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