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AJC u16 2017

Same size.

Nathan Snelgrove. Also 6"9-6"10.

Not quite as far along in his development though.

ACT boys u16

Monaghan Max
Emelifeonwu Robert
Matthew Harry
Wallace Henry
Mellick Charlie
Tunks Thomas
Potter Charlie
Fall Amath
Murphy Luke
Wolff Airi

Isn't there a reserve on metro that is considerably taller than waters.

Of those '02 bigs, Waters is actually 6"10 but a long term prospect. And 3 others are WA kids.

WA metro look huge, just a case of whether their guards stack up..

http://basketball.net.au/helloworld-travel-under-16-champs-draw-released/

ACT women
Abby Solway
Alexandra Gorddard
Alexandra Lee
Ashley Smith
Jasmyn Boutzos
Keeley Dunbar
Kirby Smee
Maddison Wheatley
Natasha Lyall
Pyper Thornberry

NT U16 BOYS TEAM
Dante Ahsam
Ivan Banawa
William Burtton
Shae Egan
Deijahnelle Vaha-Emani
Tyler Fanning
Copelan Ford
Zeb Hantlemann
Kane Raddock
Luca Tutty


Best team nt have had in a long time.

6'1 Meldrum pg

According to the list.

01 Guards are..

6'0 Madden cg
6'1 Rantall sg
6'1 Bald sg
6'2 Taulapui sg
6'4 Capetola sg/sf
6'5 Buluk sg/sf
6'5 Clarke sg/sf

Two in the top 5 scorers for the tournament, three in the top five 3's. Not bad for first years in a decent field of competition.

Add an inch or possibly 2 to those guys come mid next year. 15-16 boys haven't stopped growing yet.

forgot buluk at coe.

Big jump from 16's to 18's!
Only one gaurd in Perth would rank with those named in the previous post.

True.
But Crowe was behind Dalton and Igbenoba behind Bowen. Campbell didn't make the u18s and Beattie didn't play a lot.
Not sure any of these guys will be in camp??

At pf
Jackson played well at both tournaments as bottom age and Steiner performed awesome at last years u16s. But didn't make cut for u18s.

Very guard heavy it looks like with
Madden, Capetola, Clarke, bald, meldrum, taulapiu, Rantall, all making u18s as bottom agers. Doesn't include,all the quality 02 guards will see at u16s in July.

Going by the boys stats those top 5 or tallest 01 kids certainly didn't set the world on fire in Townsville!

In this thread: parents with Google search skills

A pic of u16 wa metro team and reserves.

http://www.communitynews.com.au/cockburn-gazette/sport/basketball-thwaites-at-home-with-coaching-role/

01 (Centre) 5 tallest from u16/u18
Walsh 6'10
Campbell 6'7
Beattie 6'7
Crowe 6'6
Igbenoba 6'6

02 (Centre) All under 6'7
Tsapatolis
Simons
Runnalls
Afolabi
ibukunoluwa
Waters
Motuga
Prowd
Etc

2016 u17 worlds post players.
Froling 6'10
Colina 6'10
Dalton 6'8
Bowen 6'7
Johns 6'7

Some quality 1-2-3's in the 01 group for the Asia Champs. They are not blessed with size but have some very good perimeter players that can score.

Not sure if any of the 02 4-5's are any better than those available in the 01 age group?

NT women

Molly Althouse
Grace Boyd
Tyla Cubillo
Haven Hohipa-Wilson
Shavayah Lee
Zaylee Lynch
Kayllah Motlop
April Rummery-Lamb
Leah Seden
Tiayana Sing

Apart from Tsapatolis and Simons, who are the other bigs ? We barely have any in 01 group so I'm guessing schueller and co will be watching closely.

SAC girls won't finish anywhere near those predictions. Will struggle to win a game as the coach picked HER kids and not the best by a long shot!
She has done this for years and needs to step down

Boys
Vic m
Qld n
Nsw m
Sa m
Qld s
Nsw c
Nz
Wa m
Vic c
Tas
Sa c
Wa c
Act
Nt

Girls
Vic m
Sa m
Qld s
Vic c
Nsw c
Nsw m
Qld n
Sa c
Tas
Nz
Wa c
Wa m
Act
Nt

Boys predicted finish
VM
Qld N
NSWM
SAM
Qld S
WAM
NSWC
VC
TAS
ACT
WAC
SAC
NT

Girls predicted finish
VM
SAM
VC
Qld S
Qld N
NSWC
WAM
NSWM
TAS
SAC
ACT
WAC
NT

*NZ to be between 4-6 in boys and 8-10 girls

Tassie, don't think so. Women finished 5th and 8th at Acjbc earlier in the year.

I'd say the dark horse is nsw c.

Zzzzzzzzz

QLD North Men will be very hard to beat.
Even though I'm not sure of my source in Launceston, I have been told the U16 Tasmania Women will be the dark horse

And the rivalry will continue over next 5-6 years based on current players and rescent state champ results.

Vic Metro vs QLD North becoming quite the rivalry

Vic Metro women will be pretty tough, beat Hume City's Youth League team this week in a practice match by 30 odd.

I don't think vic m women will be dominant as last year.

Qld N, SA Met, Vic Met the favourites in the boys? I would probably take WA Met, NSW Met, Vic Country in the mix but I would be surprised by NSW Country or Qld S in the top 4.

Girls should have a dominant Vic Met side?

IMO

Girls-medal contenders
(Qld Sth, vic m, nsw c, sa m)

Boys-medal contenders
(Qld nth, Qld s, vic m, nsw m, nsw c, sa m)

Which sides look like being in the running to medal?

Close one this year in both boys and girls...

Boys
Alex Davies (Cairns)
Boston Mazlin (Townsville)
Tamuri Wigness (Cairns)
Khobie Redgard (Bundaberg)
Tyler Fearne (Cairns)
Ezekiel Corowa (Mackay)
Mitchell Wright (Bundaberg)
Ethan Crees (Cairns)
Hayden Runnals (Cairns)
Chandler Halliday (Rockhampton)



NT N/A

ACT N/A

U16 QLD WOMENS North
Chailee Ward (Townsville)
Shantey Kaigey (Townsville)
Akaysha Muggeridge (Rockhampton)
Shaylee Browning (Townsville)
Shanice Swain (Cairns)
Indiah Bowyer (Cairns)
Cassidy Warner (Cairns)
Ainslie Minogue (Townsville)
Kaitlin Plahn (Mackay)
Jameelie Cleeland (Townsville)

WA COUNTRY
Girls
D.East
K.Butler
A.East
D.Harris
N.Humphries
K.King
N.Humphries
P.Thomas
H.Trusso
S.Lewis

Boys
L.Bennett
J.Burton
S.Edwards
J.Colegate
H.Alforque
S.Trainor
H.Alforque
N.Wipane
A.Ishigami Sims
C.Montgomerie

SA COUNTRY
Girls
M.Briggs
P.Size
J.Eldridge
M.Butcher
T.Griffiths
E.Close
E.O'Driscoll
M.Otto
I.Frensch
M.Haggett

Boys
M.Thomson
A.Day
J.Grosser
H.Mosey
T.Glover
R.Stasinowsky
R.Smelt
S.Scott
R.Tink
M.Graetz

VIC COUNTRY
Girls
M.Mccarthy
P.Dunlop
E.Devenie
K.Bruce
O.Noter
C.Remmos
O.Pollerd
A.Knights
J.Melbourne
M.Zeldenryk

Boys
J.Tooth
J.Michel
E.Fiegert
C.Connick
K.Robinson
L.Porter
N.Prowd
L.D'angelo
O.Hide
J.Ugle Hagan

NSW COUNTRY
Girls
O.Barber
R.Jennings
K.Kingham
E.Dent
S.Matthews
A.Raidaveta
J.Relf
Z.Andrews
K.Mclean
R.Macdonald

Boys
Z.Simmons
R.Bath
J.Anderson
H.Bush
N.Martin
L.Mihai
H.Morris
J.Shoaib
T.Ottosson
P.Dopud

NZ
Girls
C.O'Connell
J.Moors
W.Jennings
D.Stephens
S.Adams
A.Strawbridge
D.Shearer
P.Mason
H.Matahaere
J.Kailahi Fulu

Boys
R.Coman
C.Emery
S.Jenkins
T.Murray
O.Paea
H.Payne
M.Stodart
O.Tilaia
R.Topia
E.Vaigafa

TAS
Girls
E.Amos
A.Anis
M.Bingley
C.Bell
Z.Crawford
S.Hayward
C.Heather
M.Simpson
J.Johnson
A.Jackson

Boys
T.Armstrong
S.Deans
J.Holland
J.Grey
A.Kitson
J.Lowe
J.Simpson
T.Mcshane
R.Smith
P.Stancombe

WA METRO
Girls
H.Halliday
H.Burt
M.Alone
R.Hamilton
G.Harding
B.Malone
Z.Jolly
N.Oberman
T.Morgan
J.Teasdale

Boys
C.Eves
W.Hansen
T.Kohr
A.Afolabi
B.Nielson
J.Ibukunoluwa
N.Thomas
K.Waters
R.Williams
Y.Oyeniyi

SA METRO
Girls
K.Rees
M.Hall
C.Hodges
L.Knight
O.Renshaw
M.Tattarelli
A.Cotton
B.Lounder
T.Lindsay
R.Frisby Smith

Boys
J.Dyer
E.Bryan
S.Griffin
F.Ipassou
T.Mitchell
T.Dyer
K.Rasmussen
L.Rowe
K.Sapwell
B.Cannizarro

VIC METRO
Girls
C.Suemai
C.Willemse
G.Potter
G.Baldwin
Z.Jenkins
K.Evans
A.Keating
C.Paea
E.Riley
S.Korakis

Boys
O.Berry
L.Cleary
J.Woodford
P.Tsapatolis
D.Herbert
F.Elliot
L.Failli
M.Honeyman
Z.Taylor
L.Adebayo

NSW METRO
Girls
R.Crawford
J.Barr
A.Goodchild
K.Henderson
I.Morgan
M.Prior
E.Pitman
D.Walker
H.Willis
E.Van Der Maas

Boys
C.Bird
A.Gak
J.Nickel
E.Yetman
R.Moore
E.Dizon
S.Clemens
S.Tako
R.Kayrouz
T.Ramos

While reading Bill Simmons NBA Article, i thought about the 36ers in relation to The Law of Too Many Guys.

Adelaide all year, has had the one star player, and the other 9 players are around the same talent. We play 10 deep, but overall, the talent isn't that great. They all demand 10-30mins but nobody really stands out, and players don't get the time they need to really take over the game.

Ballinger - Star

Same-Sames

Johnson
Shannon
Bruce
Carter
Creek
Hill
Holmes
Howard
Dowdell


You only need eight and a half guys to win in the NBA: five starters, three bench guys, then an 8½th man who doesn't mind playing 0-10 minutes a night and being on call if a rotation guy gets into foul trouble, gets hurt or whatever.


More time for the players, better flow to the game, less momentum kills and better chemistry. Now that says "to win in the NBA", however that is for an 82 game marathon season playing multiple games a week with 48min games.

NBL is 28 games, 40min games and no more than 2 games in a week, majority 1 per week. It stands to reason that you can use the "eight and a half guys" law effectively.


Of those eight and half guys, ideally, you need two scorers, one ball handler, one perimeter defender and one rebounder.

This year, who was our two scorers? Who was our rebounder? Perimeter defender?

We didn't really have two scorers or a rebounder. Explains the two areas we were most horrible at, apart from defending...

Ballinger could be one scorer, SG Import another, C Import the rebounder, Gibson ball handler, Herbert perimeter defender.


You need to be able to play defense.

Our defense was horrible this year, both inside and out.

Big C Import provides a presence down low, Herbert/Gibson/Carter help form a strong D team.

You need everyone to know their roles.

We had too many players playing, interchanging roles and so on, offensive movement was crap and defensive switches sucked.

You want your key guy inside, key scorer (Import SG), key 3pt shooter.



You need to know who's playing crunch time and who gets the ball in those last few minutes.

We got killed in crunch time. Our offensive movement was between stagnant and non-existent at times.

We need a player that we count on to lead the ship before it wrecks.



What would i do for 8 and a 1/2 players?


C Import/Johnson (6th)
F Ballinger/Dowdell (8 1/2 - 0-10mins)
F Herbert/Creek (8th)
G Import/Carter (7th)
G Gibson/Daly



It's a common-sense thing. Ask any NBA starter how many minutes would make them happy and they'd say 36 to 38 (one rest per half). There are 240 minutes available in a basketball game. That means you need to allot 180-190 minutes for your five starters to be happy. Now, ask any bench player how many minutes they need to play well and you know what they'd say? Two stretches per half for 8-10 minutes. They need time to run around, break a sweat, get a feel for the game and get comfortable. That means you need to allot 50-60 minutes for your three bench guys and your 8½th man.

So let's split the difference: 185 minutes for five happy starters, 55 minutes for the three and a half bench guys. That adds up to … wait for it … 240 minutes! What a coincidence.

Subtract about 6 mins from the starting 5 and 2 mins from the benchies, and that's a good amount of time for each player.


Starting 5:
Ballinger 32
Gibson or SG Import 32
Other 3 = 30

= 154/200

Benchies 3 = 16 mins

8 and 1/2 man, Dowdell = 6 mins

= 200 mins