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Frankston Blues sack Grant Wallace

Franga has $1mill to contribute to the project!

Paul you may need to get someone to read the article to you because you clearly have struggled understanding the content.
They should erect a statue of Billson because he has been there saving grace from day one!

About time the redevelopment got off the ground. Only been 6 years - like Casey gave them a 2 year head start and passed them with a couple in hand!!

The stadium redevelopment moved a pretty big step closer yesterday with lease terms being agreed. Lease hasn't been officially signed yet but I think it will be. FDBA could save into seven figures as a result of holding out, as well as potentially getting another mill of govt money into the project. Stadium redevelopment to start in a few months with a bit of luck.

http://www.frankstonbasketball.asn.au/index.php?id=56&tx_ttnews%5Byear%5D=2017&tx_ttnews%5Bmonth%5D=06&tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=527&cHash=8fb0ed83ba2aae2b3d2cd29abbc7b419

not true

Any truth that Frankston are going to take a leave of absence from SEABL and play Big V like Knox?

Have heard from a few sources

The best news at Frankston is the new men's coach.
The word is that Harms has accepted a 3 year contract and if so the club finally will have quality person and coach, who can attract and develop talented players.

FRK were decent against NUNA week before too... might have got close if not for some foul trouble

Yes Franga beating Canberra AND Bendigo isn't get the job done.

Sounds like things are still shite down at Franganistan...

Does anyone know when this high quality board, that has stood bye and done very little to improve the club over the past 6-7 years are going to have the guts to do the right thing by their members? Looking at the makeup of this group, l think very little have the courage to do that sadly.

If only we had the internet to search for it.

Don't know. Do you?

How's the team going since the sacking?

I would think most seabl clubs spend that sort f money normally for 2 teams.

Does anyone know what Frankston's SEABL budget is?

About 4 years ago i was told they spent over 350K on SEABL, would assume it is more now.

Paulo knows it all

Paul, Leases are made to be broken just like contracts so of the council want them out they'll find a way.
. Have the club sacked Mijovic bcs she has made the Aussie 3x3 team And Opals training squad. Of course they haven't and nor should they. Wallace should never have been sacked - the club should have used this as a positive and talked it up.

In my opinion, They should shift the focus from SEABL where there have been poor results and focus on developing Juniors. To the best of my knowledge, there is not a VYC/YL team to pathway players and the jump from U/20s or U/18s to SEABL is massive. Thinking this gap will help them be successful is like learning to drive in a beat up 1982 Commodore then expected to win the F1 world championship the following year

Can someone tell me why and who thought this was ever a good idea?

Why is there no Youth teams? Players in U/16's are leaving because they have now where to aim to play. Are they going to fix this?

Anyone know anymore on this?

Sad to see this happening

The house of cards is falling over. Jolly good times coming to an end!

I think they have done the right thing by their membership. No point playing the short game if you don't have to. We will see how this one plays out over time, but the council certainly isn't "the bear" in this situation.

Yes they have a 9 year lease but thats it.No new stadium and you'll find the funding will be returned to the respective government bodies if it doesn't occur.The way FDBA tried to bully the council into accepting the offer was laughable. Don't poke the bear as you'll always come off second best.

"Deadline for Frankston to sign the lease is today.If they don't Council takes full control of the expansion project leaving FDBA in no mans land!!!"

This isn't true. If FDBA doesn't sign the lease the project probably won't go ahead, but the council can't take control of the project without FDBA's permission for another nine years when their lease runs out.

Franga are truely blessed to have Sandy just up the highway to make them look good.

Deadline for Frankston to sign the lease is today.If they don't Council takes full control of the expansion project leaving FDBA in no mans land!!!

More changes to come out of Frankston. Stay tuned!

Who is assisting Andrew Harms at Franga now?

Current Sabres Prez- board member of SEABL
Current major sponsor- board member of SEABL
CEO- former competition manager of SEABL and coach of the 2000's at SEABL
Head of Basketball-BJ- coach of the 1990's at SEABL
Basketball Operations- long time SEABL coach at Frankston

I'm guessing that the appointment might be partly to make sure that Sandringham stay in SEABL.

Joyce is a waste of money at Sabres. A desperate attempt by the Pres to save his position.

Why is BJ's nickname Choc?

Sandy's been in trouble for a while now. Far from anything to do with Choc.

BJ doesn't take long to stuff things up, but it's been a sinking ship down at Sandy for a long time so wouldn't blame him for all of it, but he's certainly not going to help it either

I wonder what the BA investigation of Sandringham has found?

Why were the CEO and Blues Chairman involved and not the HPM? Or is Harmsy the new HPM and the Blues have a Grant Thomas / St Kilda situation on their hands? Interesting story.

Why wouldn't the current Assistant Coach be selected to step up?

Congrats to "Little Mike" Andrew Harmes on getting the gig. Let's hope he doesn't end up on the long list of Frankstons sacked coaches: Runchey, Al Mc, Simon, Grant to name a few...

Hang on just wait! Brendan Joyce hasn't been there long enough to stamp his influence yet! ;)

About the only middle-large club going worse than Frankston at the moment is Sandringham- only one team in the Classic, girls program in big trouble, senior program relying heavily on imported players. So anyone at Frankston hoping for a return to the good old days under Bill Runchey may be disappointed- he hasn't had a great effect at Sandy.
Maybe both clubs should leave SEABL, and focus on rebuilding their junior programs so they are strong enough to support a mainly local senior program.

No need to sign long term contracts down at Franga land!!!!

In the 6 or so years since the new bosses down there etc
- men's seabl has been a joke. Have they made playoffs in that time? Runchey didn't often miss?
- how many DOC's/High performance managers have they been through?
- do they have any better representation in VC and making Classic etc
- how many longtime families/players have left or been pushed out from all of the crap down there?
- the mess with the stadium being built?

They weren't exactly a powerhouse before this, always seemed to be underpinning , but it has gone backwards in a big way and true reputation of the club and its culture is in the pits. At what stage does the club make a move to get rid of the people who have overseen this dumpster fire?

No hiding behind the fact the players hated him, his structures were the same as they were in early 2000's and that he is a flat out knob.

Well done Frankston, hope the team now wins some games.

Karma is a bi*tch.

Ben Rush is available.

The Jolly good times continue down at Franga town. Their DOC is off on stress leave, they've screwed up the new courts deal, and now sack their 4th SEABL coach in 5 years! Big changes needed if the club is to survive!

Spectres moved him on ages ago. Charmed life? Franga in turmoil. Again.

Maybe this is the first time in basketball he has been held accountable for an outcome?

Wallace was told based on player feedback the board and CEO cited poor performance, different rules for different players,offence not good,not developing juniors and accepting the under 17's assistants role. Not quite the same as the media release...tail wags the dog!!! Woof...

Frankston's Press release has a slightly different slant on it - to be expected, I guess!

SEABL Men Press Release
31.05.2017

The Frankston Blues Basketball Club can confirm SEABL Men’s Head Coach Grant Wallace has been released from his duties effective as of Tuesday 30 May 2017.

As announced by Basketball Australia on Tuesday 23 May, Grant has been appointed Assistant Coach to the Australian U17 boys side touring Guam in July as part of FIBA U19 World Cup 2019 preparations.

The club fully supports Grant pursing national duties and in assisting the re-qualification of an exceptionally talented future U19 squad but the scheduling conflict; and need for our SEABL head coach to have 100% focus on our SEABL program has led the club to deciding in the best interests of the program Grant is released to pursue this national opportunity.

The club has secured an interim coach to complete the 2017 SEABL men’s season with further news to follow shortly regarding this appointment.

We would like to thank Grant for his services to the Blues program and wish him the best of luck in his future coaching endeavours.

Regards



Chris Beattie

Frankston Blues Chairperson

Agree, some valid points by Grant and Frankston should be proud to have an Australian Coach on their staff and should 'milk that'. But it would seem he didn't ask or inform Frankston that he'd applied or was intending to apply for the Australian role? If so, this is extremely poor communication.

However, I believe he made or contributed to some bad recruitment decisions which has contributed to their SEABL malaise:

Not keeping Mike McInnes & Matt Turner, whilst they're not stars they are 'Club first' players, good players to have around & were capable of playing some good support minutes off the bench, so the starters could rest. Allowing Josh Oswald to leave. He will have a long SEABL career. Not playing Tom Wilson more last year - look what he's doing this year. Allowing Tom's brother Jack to leave.

Unfortunately for the many good Frankston members and supporters who always turn out to support the SEABL team the recruiting and coaching has let them down.

For a domestic association of their size they should have far greater success in VJBL & SEABL than they have been experiencing in the last 10 or more years. This is not Grant's fault alone, but he has contributed or been part of it lately.

Unfortunately, some hard questions need to be asked of all, including the board and management.

IMHO - getting rid of the Big V Youth team was not a great development move. Where do their up and coming players play?

However, to be brutally honest, in most cases if an 18/19/20 YO is not SEABL ready (and that might be starting with a bench role), they probably never will be.

IMHO - the work with the Juniors needs to start long before youth league. It needs to start at the U14 level as a minimum. Who is responsible for putting measures in place to ensure this happens? The board, the management, the director of coaching - in that order.

Everyone needs to be pulling in the same direction.

The Program is a basket case.The excuse is laughable and like most coaches he's better off out of there. That team has 4 legitimate SEABL players and the rest aren't up to it. Whoever takes the gig will end being made the scapegoat like the rest.

Valid points by grant,

no youth league program stunts the development.

Using his appointment to the Aussie team is crap, you should pumping up the fact you have an Australian coach in your ranks, not using it as an excuse to flick the coach.

3-10 is a tough position and will always put pressure on boards to make change unfortunately.