Hoops

WA SBL - June 2017

A new thread for July has started here.....

https://www.hoops.com.au/forum/41465

^ Lol um Hawks lost to Mandurah by 20 last night.

Redbacks are piss weak without Redhage. Roberts and Vigor were manhandled by Carlwell tonight. He outbodied everyone. Adekponya is a top 5 guard in the SBL - he dominated tonight, triple-double to show for it. The game was over midway through the third. Hawks to be dangerous leading up to finals

Nelson wont win MIP he has only played half a dozen games

Top 3 MVP:
1. Benjamin
2. Turner
3. Redhage

Top 3 Most Improved Players:
1. Nelson
2. Shervill
3. Litterick

Top 3:
Most Valuable Players
Most Improved Players

Voekel 13.57/16.29/9.14 @ 47%
Tre 25.88/4.29/3.12 @ 45%

I question you about tre"s defence , there is always people who question scorers about their defence. not many defenders have won a mvp award period , that wont matter. all the top teams have people stealing votes from each other.
talking about brian voekel I would have paid money to watch him and Michael haney go at it.

Voekel is the best import in the league. His impact on the game is streaks ahead of Tre, who's just a scorer. He opt's out on the defensive side of the floor.

Tre is a gun, but I think Vokel is just as or maybe more important to Slammers in turns of Wins and Losses.

TRE NICHOLS WILL BE THE M.V.P THIS SEASON.

They form they have been in this year you would expect it but it probably won't happen.

Perry Lakes -
You would expect them to get wins against Suns,Magic,Giants,Lakeside and even Flames

50/50's against Redbacks/Slammers

Lose to Buccs.

Most vulnerable would be Perry Lakes Id say. They are only just in on percentage. They need to win at least 5 out of 8 to be a chance

Joe-Allen to move away from coaching at season's end?

Is the top 8 set?

Tough weekend for East Perth.
2 losses by 2pts hurts.
That sees them done for the year at 7-13.

So that leaves only Lakeside at Rockingham trying to force their way into the 8!

Lakeside have a tough draw home can’t see them winning more than 2 or 3 games.
WOLVES, Senators, SLAMMERS, suns, GIANTS, HAWKS, TIGERS

Flames have only 5 games remaining.
Slammers, East Perth, HAWKS, SUNS, Giants
You would think 3 wins would be best case.
That gives them 12-14

Maybe Senators are the most vulnerable but they should get the 4 wins needed to secure a finals berth.
However head to head with Senators and Flames is locked up at one win each both by 2pts which may keep things interesting.

"^^^any arrests?"

loooool!

RACE TO THE MVP

Redhage: Must be the favourite at the moment. The time he is taking off at the moment could cost him the award though. Up to this point he would have 3 votes in all their wins and 2 votes in most of their losses.

Benjamin: Close second to Redhage, missed only one game but might have lost a few votes to others on his teams when he has had an off night. He if polls strongly while Redhage is away could he take the lead?

Turner and Bowie: These two are together, as individuals they are having MVP seasons. But unfortunately with the way the voting works they will steal votes from one another and cost themselves.

Holmen: Putting together another brilliant year but probably won't have the wins to get there. He also missed some time earlier in the year.

Nichols: Could be the darkhorse this year. A little down on production with the others on his team helping him out. But has the respect of the refs and the coaches to get some votes despite not having the 30+ explosions weekly. Bunbury have made a strong run.

^^^any arrests?

lakeside traveled to Kalgoorlie on Friday and stayed the night. will also be staying saturday night and returning to perth on sunday.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=boogie

racists!

Kalgoorlie is the boogie capital of Australia.

Well Lakeside are bible bashers so makes complete sense.

boogie?

Thanks R@nD0m, great preview. Pity the Lakeside boys miss out on a few softies and a boogie in Kal!

Cougars @ Headquarters - Fri 8:30pm
If 4th - 10th wasn't so close, you could make an argument that the Hawks really need to start winning some games if they want to see August Action with only five weeks remaining of the regular season. The fact that they have 9 games over that stretch means its not panic stations just yet, but it is not far off for Parso's squad. That being said they did knock off the Wolves last week and that in itself is no mean feat. Here they welcome the reigning champs who are also coming off a handy win over the Senators last weekend, and will want to keep those Top 4 aspirations alive with a road win in this one. TOUGH ONE TO CALL, BUT I WILL GO WITH THE COUGARS BY 7

Senators @ The 'Ham - Fri 8:30pm
Yours truly not behind the mic this weekend due to work commitments but this should be one of the games of the week. Both these sides match up extremely well and it would not surprise me to see this one head into at least one Overtime period. Rocko on somewhat of a roll at the moment, whilst Stirling are there abouts like always but should never be underestimated. SHOULD BE AN ABSOLUTE BALL TEARER DOWN IN THE TEENAGE PREGNANCY CAPITAL OF WA, I WILL LEAN TOWARDS MY FLAMES BOYS TO GET UP IN A CLASSIC... WINNING BY 3

Slammers @ The Eagles Nest - Fri 8:30pm
Fair to say for the Eagles it win or bust from here on in unless those above them can drop a couple of games to keep them in the Mix. A tough two point loss last week to the Wolves on the road didn't help their cause and they will need all the help they can get against one of the surprise packets of 2017 in the fifth placed Slammers. Nixy's boys pushed the Buccs up in the Midwest last Saturday night and despite not getting the W, the boys from Bunno will get alot of confidence from that game moving forward. THE QUESTION HERE IS WHO FROM THE EAGLES STOPS NICHOLS AND LAY.......... NOPE, EXACTLY I COULDN'T FIND AN ANSWER EITHER. SLAMMERS TO END THE EAGLES SEASON, WINNING BY 17

Wolves @ Gero - Saturday 7:30pm
Definitely a tale of two teams at completely different ends of the proverbial tangent at the moment. Joondalup struggling to beat nigh on anyone at the moment, head up to take on the Buccs who continue to show why they should be taken rather seriously as one of the genuine contenders this year. Joondalup will need two things to stand a chance in this one - have big games (20+) from two of their big three in Trian, Sebba & Rob... as well as keep the League's loudest and most feral crowd quiet or at a minimum out of the game, for as long as possible. THE WOLVES KNOW HOW TO WIN IN THE MIDWEST, SO THIS COULD BE THE TYPE OF BACKS AGAINST THE WALL GAME THEY NEED TO REALLY GET BACK TO WHERE MOST EXPECT THEM TO BE AROUND THE TOP OF THE LADDER. BUT THEY DON'T CALL EIGHTH ST STADIUM THE FORTRESS FOR NOTHING AND YOU CAN BET YOUR BOTTOM DOLLAR THE EMU EXPORT EXPERTS ON THE BALCONY ABOVE THE VISITORS BENCH WILL BE HAPPY TO SHARE THEIR ADVICE WITH THE WOLVES PLAYERS AND COACHING STAFF. BUCCS TO GET UP IN A CLOSER ONE THAN SOME WOULD PREDICT, WINNING BY 9

Suns @ South West - Saturday 8pm
Kalamunda coming off a pretty big upset win over the Giants up in at Kambalda last Saturday night (Lukosius could be pulling the pin on any more games out there if that trend continues!) and would have to consider themselves a sneaky chance of two upsets in as many weeks up against a Slammers side who will be backing up after a trip to Morley the night before. I WILL GO AHEAD AND SAY THIS COULD BE THE HIGHEST SCORING GAME OF THE YEAR WITH DEFENSE TO BE JUST AN AFTERTHOUGHT. BOTH TEAMS TO REACH TRIPLE FIGURES, SLAMMERS TO WIN BY 19

Redbacks @ Mandurah - Saturday 8pm
59 points in a game won't win you many Women's games, let alone a Men's game. So that my Magic friends is what you boys at least have to beat this weekend... for personal pride if nothing else. Perth head down to the Peel region without their High Profile recruit in Redhage but ladder positions aside, I still think Lacko's boys will have way too much depth and polish for Trahair's troops here. THIS MIGHT BE EMBARRASSING... REDBACKS BY 30+

Lightning @ Goldfields - Saturday 8pm
Lakeside with their annual splash and dash trip to the Goldfields here (For those who don't know, the Lakeside boys travel back on the team bus straight after they play up there - crazy not to take in the nightlife that the 'Goorlie has to offer but meh, who am I to judge) Lakeside still with Finals aspirations, whilst for the Giants each game is with a view to 2018 now and to get some confidence back from their supporters who went out to see THAT result out in Kambalda last weekend. A WEEK IS A LONG TIME IN SPORT, AND COACH CAUSER AND THE GIANTS GET TO PROVE THAT HERE. TOUGH TO SEE THE LIGHTNING GOING DOWN THOUGH, WHICH IS WHY I WILL PICK THEM TO GET UP BY 12

Flames @ Willo - Saturday 8pm
A bruised and battered Flames side will head north to the Tigers Den to take on Blacky's boys who will be fresh and raring to go for this one. Depending on results up in the Midwest, Willo could go to the top of the Ladder with a win here, and maintain their two game gap between themselves and third. The clash between these two sides earlier in the season wasn't close and despite the addition of DKD to the Flames lineup since then, its hard to see that changing much here. WILLO TO MAINTAIN THEIR POSITION UP THE TOP LADDER, DEFEATING THE FLAMES IN THIS SOUTHERN DERBY BY 14

Eagles @ Cougar Den - Sunday 2pm
Both sides finishing Week 15 with the Sunday leg of a double header, having both played on Friday night. Huge weekend for both teams, even more so for the Cougars who if they win both could move into the Top 4 but if they lose both could get them as low as 7th. The stakes are more dire for the Eagles who if they lose both this weekend, it will be all but over for them. ANOTHER TOUGH ONE TO PICK AT THE END OF A WEEKEND, BUT I WILL GO WITH COCKBURN AT HOME TO GO 2-0 FOR THE WEEKEND, KNOCKING OFF THE EAGLES BY 11.

Stirling have also recently added veteran ex Perry Lakes and Lakeside player, Jesse Dixon

Speaking of talented youngsters word is Sherville will be heading to College as well.

Alex Ducas is off to the AIS/Basketball Centre for Excellence.

where has bowen and stone gone to. also I cant see young alex ducus hanging around for long either. he is a talented youngster not sure if any colleges are looking at him yet either ?

KOBERULZ, are you a perth supporter, You seem to know a lot about them.

B. Every day of the damn week, if whacko lako can't win with that lineup - especially when you add two gun guards in wagner and smith, as well as two outstanding youngsters in Bowen & Stone

I think everyone will be surprised with how the Redbacks play with no Redhage. The ball moves a lot more, they don't play through one player, and Roberts (one of the most competitive guys the L has seen) makes everyone around him lift. Marshall Nelson also playing out of his mind lately. I agree with the above however, that if they don't win the chip it will be incredibly embarrassing. You're not going to get a better line up than that in the SBL.

B- That squad on paper is loaded and should be more than capabale of winning.They just dont have the right mix of players.

Perry Lakes have been very inconsistent but a lot of that can be down to injuries. Friday was the first time they have had anything resembling a full squad all season. They need another off season of change to combat the bad habits from previous years.

Stirling may have 3 NBL players but we are talking about fringe guys. They still need to grow as a group. Think since Naymick has come in they havent used their young big Litterick enough. They are never really considered a title chance though. They are a playoff team in that 5-8 spot but nothing more.

Good Post.

When Stirling signed highly credentialed Naymick many thought minimum top 4 finish.
3 x NBL players, Import and solid local juniors in Litterick and Coburn, plus a couple vets in Witts/Bruton.
They should be doing a lot better.

Redbacks will have no Redhage for next 6 weeks, but he will be well rested and back for finals.
Really is the Redbacks to lose this year.
If Lacko messes this up they must move on and get a new coach and fresh start for 2018!

B. Every day of the damn week, if whacko lako can't win with that lineup - especially when you add two gun guards in wagner and smith, as well as two outstanding youngsters in Bowen & Stone - then that is the biggest flop not just of the season but probably in the last decade.

So which out of the following scenarios would be considered as the best flop of the season should it happen?

A: Perry Lakes missing the finals or being bundled out (again) in the first round considering (technically) they have 3 x imports and bought in 2 x time COTY Parsons.
B: Perth not winning the Championship with Roberts, Redhage and Vigor.
C: Stirling missing the finals with 1 x import and 3 x NBL players (yes, I’m inc DP players).

Kind of cute of you to assume I'd say 50/50 or comebacks. Nice try/trap... not.

and it's a trade off I'll take. The better team has more time to make a comeback, as yearned for above.

Blowouts like duh obviously, kid. The better team has more time to win so there are less outliers.

Kind of cute of you to assume I'd say 50/50 or comebacks. Nice try/trap... not.

Which do you think you'll get more of?

So? I'll take more blowouts along with the chance of more comebacks than the 40min turbo format.

On the other hand 8 mins more gives more time for blowouts as well.
It's a ridiculous argument.

It is a greater test of stamina.

48min gives more time for comebacks. 8mins more, fact.

I would suggest KobeRulz is using NBA stats because you're arguing the point about 48 minute games compared to 40.

Considering the NBA is the only league to use 48 minute games, he doesn't really have any other options.

Has anyone been drug tested yet? After all the big deals made in the pre season?

I say they should switch to 20 min halves ;)

why are you quoting the NBA stats? Has nothing to do with the SBL. Dont try and tar every league with the same brush. Go to some game and watch for yourself. Last few seasons there were a lot of games where teams had big leads but couldnt hold onto them and lost in the last few minutes.Already this season have seen teams rally and come storming back into games only to fall a play or two short. There is less fatigue amongst the players and they dont bend under pressure anywhere as much as over a 48 min game. Im not saying the 48 is better at all either. I merely stated that it takes another element of coaching and game play out of the mix.

100% agree with koberulz.

the group that just keeps trying to cry on about 48mins is using trump's theory of 'alternative facts' to make it sound like it use to be better. Without actually backing it up with a legitimate reason.

40 minutes here to stay. SBL clubs are not losing any more money being shorter, and you could argue they are in fact a margin more.

And as for the SBL being boring now. It was always boring, its the state league, it sucks. Have to been to Kalamunda? Go once... never go again.