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William McDowell-White signs in Germany

The nbl is a league where the clubs
can exploit the youngsters by using/playing them without paying. what a rip-off.

The NBL isn't the NBA.

Chris, a lot of players averaged less than 2 points
per game in nba and they got paid more than $US 1 million per year

Training bait are TPs not DPs.

But yeah clubs could be getting around the requirement. But if they are doing it by the book they get paid unless staying amateur to be exempt for college purposes.

"There are two categories of development players; paid and unpaid."

Plus training players (TPs). So there are three.

Many above confused DPs with TPs.

We know all that already. But what the JvG statement is claiming is WDW was taking a year off college and thus not being paid to remain elgible. You can not start your college career, then take a year off for no good reason, and then restart it.

Harry Froling took a similar route (unpaid dp) with the crocs before going to college to maintain his eligibility, it is a path that highly rated juniors take to keep their options open for the future. Also back in the day David Barlow was a development player with the Victoria Titans before going to college at Metro State and then subsequently signing with the sydney kings upon his return. Both of these players would have been deemed ineligible for college if they'd have been paid. There are two categories of development players; paid and unpaid.

News to me that DP's get paid. I may have changed in recent years but again afaik they never got paid.

Did JvG use NCAA as an (incorrect) excuse to not pay WDW since you can't pause a college career? Interesting.

Did JvG use NCAA as an (incorrect) excuse to not pay WDW since you can't pause a college career? Interesting.

DPs get paid. TPs (training players) don't. Is that why we have all these confused people on here?

It is illegal for DPs as employees under law not to be paid.

JvG wrong. Again.

WMW wasn't paid with the Kings last season.

“Importantly, by signing him as a Development Player, we allow him the chance to take a fresh look at things at the end of the NBL season, including keeping his NCAA options open should he wish to”, Mr Van Groningen added.

So when the domestic and international season didn't clash we had a full time Boomers coach twiddlimg his thumbs.

Now that they intersect the coach is part time taking up an NBL gig.

LOL

DPs have always been paid, albeit peanuts. Only way they don't get paid is to opt out to remain eligible as an amateur for college.

But you can't have a gap year from college and go back unless military/religious reasons.

So WMW would've been paid.

When he signed with the Kings late last season I'm pretty sure the announcement said he would be a DP and he wouldn't be getting paid due to keeping open his college options for this season.

Another anon another wrong fact. DPs do get paid.

Minimum payment for DP is $10g.

I think the only way to have a gap year from the college system and being able to return is for the following:

Military duty
Religious mission

Not "spend one year unpaid in the NBL" - LOL good one!

The above sounds right.

Shame on the other poster writing BS about having a complete break from college - yeah right.

Sorry but no you cannot, not unless you get a transfer and that means you continue on the college path you DO NOT take a break and go play else where for the remainder of the college year

If he never began college on a scholarship that's a different matter, he can play but not be paid but he Cannot start college then drop out and then start again , you don't repeat years , you sit out and red shirt sure but you don't walk out and then come back

Check your NCAA rulings

So which one is it? If you are still an amateur then a gap year is okay outside the college system?

#640200

Completely wrong. You can absolutely leave a college and return to a different college on an athletic scholarship, provided you were never paid to play basketball.

Kings overpaying some, yet paying others not at all.

Once you leave college you cannot go back not on athletic scholarships so that's not been the case at all

Gotta love the anon Hoops sources/sauces.

Be interesting to see if he will last the distance , track record isn't the best
As for ripping him off with an unpaid contract, he came into NBL as a development player and did nothing anyway why the hell would they pay a kid like that

Yet they waste money on a coach and assistant who aren't qualified. and I'm sure JvG is getting his fill too. What a joke.

Who would want to play for the kings again when
they ripped him off last season with a unpaid contract?

Brose are also in the Euroleague.

This is a classic example of long-term planning. Something which NBL has zero of basically. Apart from NZ and what they did with their academy.

"No idea why the Kings wouldn't bring him back."

Because they're the Kings. Basketcase franchise.

Has he got an nba out clause in the contract?
Hope a nba team pick him up later on

Yeah hopefully it works out for him.

I know a couple of years ago Brose Baskets had a reported budget of €10m (obviously total budget; not just player salaries).

I'd say the money would be attractive and well incentivised..which is great..gives motivation to work his tail off with potential reward i'm guessing (rather than 1+1+1 lack of security in Aus)

No idea why the Kings wouldn't bring him back. He looked like our steadiest PG at times last season...

Good on the kid , college was never going to happen. Why wouldn't Sydney after having him as a DP last season be making a offer .

4 years is a long time for a young man a long way from home.

Reminds me of this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonn%E2%80%93Bamberg_basketball_brawl

3 vs. 4 game because so many players were ejected!

They've won 8 of the last 11 titles.

Wow they are the best team in Germany in recent times. and four years :o

Would they have signed him with a big buy out hoping he gets drafted at some point?

Yup quite unusual. They must really like him to want to commit that long to developing his game. Another unusual thing is Bamberg is a small town with only a pop of ~70k but apparently basketball mad and the club is backed by a wealthy car parts manufacturer. IIRC Luke Schenser have played for Brose a few years ago.

Is that an unusually long deal for Europe?

http://www.wnba.com/fever/news/messenger.html