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United to "strongly" contribute to equalisation

If they have the means to build quality rosters then why not ?

He's got a good point on this occasion though.

Yes...very disappointing to see people focus on the words 'NBA calibre' rather than the titled words 'salary equalisation subsidy scheme'.

This is the first time I have seen any senior figure mention the salary equalisation subsidy scheme other than when it was first mentioned.

Does this mean it still exists?

If it does, what happened last season? We were supposed to see the salaries (without individual names) and that went no where.

As easy as it is to get caught up in rumours of Andersen = $600k, Cotton = $20k a week, Randle $300k, other than the teams and other league reps, no one knows for sure.

This is the one major failing for LK's NBL that I recognise at the moment. I don't mind if there is no salary cap, no subsidies scheme, as long as they make it clear and don't tell the basketball public otherwise.

Just tell it as it is NBL.

I can't believe most of you apart from two posters got side tracked with the NBA quotes.

JvG has thrown the equalisation measures out there to keep the league in check. He has mentioned it because it looks like the league/Utd want to do a dodgy and forget about the promise that was made re: tax. Good move JvG. More clubs need to follow suit.

the perth clubs have never had pokies

There's a lot of focus on the calibre of the players in this thread, and some to the amount of money MU seem to be tossing around.

Nobody has commented that JVG raised the subject of the "salary equalisation subsidy scheme", like it was an actual thing! I wondered if my calendar was wrong, thinking it must actually be April 1.

Is there anybody out there that seriously suggests there is a "luxury tax", "salary equalisation subsidy scheme", or call it what you will, that will ever come in to play? The NBL hasn't even taken the first step, of nominating a panel to review the whole situation for last year's rosters, and all of the teams have finalised* their squads for the current season.

I think JVG was having a huge laugh at the league's expense, and wondering if anyone would notice.

* finalised: as much as any NBL team finalises their rosters, vis a vis imports, especially.

My issue isn't private ownership, its unsustainable spending causing instability which leads to fans and sponsors not trusting that their team will be there year to year.

"Spend money until you can't anymore and hope to find someone who wants to buy your club when it folds" is a bad plan and one that ha failed again and again.

Cram, i hear what your saying, but thats the risk involved with private ownership. That has always been the case and will never change. Basketball in Australia isnt big enough to be run by members, boards or communities. It just doesnt have the numbers, clout or sponsorship to do that.

The level of support starts with private ownership. A big reason why 30 clubs have folded, but without it there wouldnt even be a professional league of this calbibre to be talking about now. So you take the good with the bad for a league like the NBL.

Sure, if you can find 8+ "filthy rich" owners who are happy throwing money away year after year long term the league will be fine. But how well has that worked in the past? Owners get bored, go broke, die, get found out as frauds etc and the league suffers. Every time.

But I think Goulding has never even gotten to the level of, say, Broekhoff, who is younger and more talented and still not cracked in nba.

The only sporting league that has clubs who are consistently sustainable is the AFL.

And they’re sustainable mostly because they own pokies venues on the side.

Of course they're fine this season. They have Larry McMoneybags funding them. That doesn't make the model sustainable

Yep. Spending crazy amounts of money is totally a sustainable model that can only end in good things for the league. I mean what could go wrong?

I think Goulding has been a very good nbl player but still is a ways off being nba calibre. You could certainly make a case for the rest of the starters (whether or not a couple are still at that level is another discussion). But I think Goulding has never even gotten to the level of, say, Broekhoff, who is younger and more talented and still not cracked in nba.

By NBA standards Goulding lacks athleticism and speed, and would get exposed defensively.

But he's one of an extremely small numbers of players around the world who has legitimate range that extends well outside the NBA 3 point line. That's an elite niche skill that could be useful in NBA.

Given he's 30 next year, his time may be passing him by, but if he can make small improvement defensively, and become a little more consistent (showing that he can contribute without putting up 15 shots) there would be teams willing to consider him. He's not far off it.

It's ridiculous in that there isn't NBA interest in them and unlike Craig didn't play as well as he did at SL.

The NBA is all about right place, right time.

If Ware, CG43 or Prather impressed in a tryout- they could conceivably be good enough to get a roster spot. Like Torrey Craig did.

So could Bryce Cotton. Potentially Sobey. Potentially Mitch Creek, at a stretch. AJ Ogilvy if he had a more reliable jump shot.

So it’s not ridiculous to call those three “NBA calibre”. Boone and Andersen though- definitely not anymore.

don't confuse calibre of players with totally failing to make good use of them. 'nba calibre' is tossed around too freely yes but the point is that is a mega stacked nbl team.

And then played NBL role player calibre at Melbourne United.

Yes, it's a loaded NBL team but JVG is on drugs making that statement. They don't even have one NBA calibre player.

Andersen was still playing NBA calibre basketball at last year's olympics

JVG goes max on the hype dial sometimes.

Good on him, gets people talking.

But of course, we basketball fans know that Yes, Boone and Andersen are NBA calibre players....or, er....were 7 years ago!

Maybe they should contribute the same as Sydney did last year with the Kings star studded line up. :) JVG looking for excuses already.